Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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ok guys , the brett partridge is alive ' thing ' is good and cool , but bob kirkland still alive ? i dont think so .

also , after reading so many theories i have made my last ' toughts '  :

- brett partridge is still alive
- michael kirkland was just a story , he is not red john and he is dead . 
- bob kirkland is also dead , we saw his death right in front of our eyes !!
- the tyger org.  is the enemy of red john .. and RJ killed the PI and put a fake tattoo just to make the org. down .
- reede smith is not red john but probably he has a strong place in the org. 
- bertram i really dont know what the hell i should think about him .. but i dont think he is red john , but if he is .. i think he is a " double agent " , he work for the tyger tyger and in the samy time he kill with the name of red john , i think that will be truly good .
- ray haffner .. emmm .... i think that if red john is one of the suspects ib the list then its gonna be haffner , he fits the description , he is the ' ladies man ' .
- sheriff thomas , he has the face of a killer , he is always calm and work in a small police of a small town so if he is red john no one in his area will notice .
- bret stiles as everybody said , he is perfectly matched .. he is smart , he is charismatic , he is powerful .. but the problem is the aaaaaaaagge :( 

SO :

- who is red john in my opinion :
1. ray haffner
2. bret stiles
3. gale bertram
4. the sheriff

i think ray haffner is the original red john ( the farm murder ) when he was 'young' but he did it because of bret stiles , i dont know why but thats my tought .. later bret stiles and ray haffner become two killers in one name .. RED JOHN . 

feel free to comment but please without hurting my feelings :)
thank you . this show is the best show i have ever seen and i hope to be a 7th season .

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http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/11/the-mentalists-simon-baker-were-3-episodes-away-from-red-john....

Here you all go. We're 3 episodes away! Getting so keen for it. 

Feel free to let me know your theories in the comment section. 

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In  S02E10 throwing fire PJ had falshbacks from his childhood with his father.
He remembered a Young very sick girl on a wheelchair with her grandmother i think.
they were ready to do anything so the girl can get well, a very rich family (luxury car and a driver) 10000usd cash almost 25 years ago, to buy a so called Healing Crystal.



RJ has to be someone related to this girl 
a father (bret stiles) or a brother (Ray haffner)

but mostly it was stiles

he created visualize at that time or little bit after that.

he met a Young lost ray haffner and brought him to visualize.

he mentored him in that farm and made him kill maybe Under hypnotise.

they kept on killing, untill one day stiles saw PJ on tv and memories came back
He wanted  revenge, he's the head and haffner made the job don, killed jane's family,
and want to show Patrick that he's a phsycic too.
because Young PJ was called the psyhcic wonder boy,, stiles call PJ my boy,,
Bertram called Pj the first time the boy wonder.
Bertram  is an Inside man for stiles in CBI and tiger.org

Stiles once told Patrick that RJ was preparing a surprise party for him.
he gave him the list of seven trough the handshake thing with Lorelei.
he killed two of seven.
he led him to the three dots, 

Bertram smith and macallister will lead PJ to the surprise party.

the party's guest will be all women
Kristina frye - lisbon - van pelt,
he's planing to kill them in front of PJ
all women because of his daughter,
he already kiled Jane's wife and daughter, the happy memory of Patrick was also a girl,
his therapist sophie miller,
maybe rosalinde harker will be there too.

And finally PJ will see the Healing crystall before he sees RJ.











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I have to say I find this incredible.

Final 5.

Probably final 3.  (by comments it is looking likely it is DEFINTILEY one of these 3)

and on this website he has as many theories as Rigsby.

Is there something obvious that is being missed here about Reede Smith??

Like NOBODY suspects him. Is that the point? Everyone focusing on other people? Most of the guilty people in the show are the ones in the background. the ones you least suspect

I get the reasons why physical description, height etc.alot of clues don't match up

How about listing some reasons why it might be him...........

Heres the first couple

1. He seemed in charge in the office with bertam. Almost telling Bertram what to do.

is Bertram reporting direct to him on the phone?

2. How many of the suspects are murderers? He definitely is

I am not saying RJ is Reede Smith, just looking at the possibility that it maybe. Before you all start going.... no chance.. Leave some comments.


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Theory #10055 • By therealredjohn1
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SPOILER!!!!!

I just saw episode 8, Partridge is Red John. i don't want to spoil anything else. I guarantee he is Red John. I cant wait for people to see episode 8, and then come back here acting like they knew it was Partridge all along.

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The only person out of the 3 with the tattoo who could have killed the private detective woman is McAllister.

Bertram is 6'3, Smith is 6'2. 

When the woman opens the door, she doesn't look up. Their eyes are on the same level.
She is not a giant like those 2 men, in fact she is about Cho's height.

The only person who is not above 6 feet is the sheriff.

I don't know if he is Red John or not, but out of the three it can only be him who killed the woman.


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Okay, somethings I want to point out after watching 6.06 again. Not very valuable stuff but mainly observations that someone could pick up for a proper theory.

a) The Pistol in Jane's belt is the proof that he set up his own house to explode. He will go undercover as a dead man for a while so he will have to leave the shotgun as evidence, therefore he's already prepared with a gun in the pocket since the very start of the longcon.

b) The Mentalist. Jane is measuring every single movement of the suspects, this is no reveal. He made the reunion in his old house, and take for sure he will be measuring who gives a hint of being there before, because clearly Red John has.

c) The 3 dotted suspects. I believe the boss in this club is McAllister. Certainly there's something with him. He is very perceptive Jane's call is about RJ, and when he reveals the Tattoo he kinda smiles at Jane, his body isn't frontal to Jane as the other suspects are, and besides he acts as if he commanded the group. Watch the scene again, he's the first one to stand up when he's told to, and he constantly smiles, or looks at the other tygers, as if he was controling them.

Specially in key moments of the shot like when Reede stands up, or when the three of them are against the wall and they turn to face Patrick, he looks at the other two like checking they proceed as planned. There's even a brief shot of Patrick pointing McAllister in which we can only see his mouth, and he's clearly smiling.

He's the only one of the three that makes Patrick uncomfortable, check their eye contact.


However, Haffner is my number one suspect based on all the other evidence. And I rule out Stiles, which is clearly the other survivor. Why? Easy. If he was RJ, Haffner would know. If Haffner knew, he wouldn't have given up his location to Lisbon, no matter how much Ray fances Teresa.

Ray also acts weird, he has the same reaction both with Teresa and with Patrick when he's told basically the same thing (that he's a suspect). Why would he react that way with Jane if Lisbon almost told him that? I think it's an acting. 

And yes, finally I agree with those who say that Jane would stand exactly opposed to the main suspect, which would be Ray.

Having them stand and separating the suspects in the two main groups we all theorists know was key. It might mean many things, up to the writers intelligence. I believe that giving his back to the two visualizers and considering how close they were to the guns was a strange way in which Jane could have tried to tempt RJ to shoot him, had he been one of those.

On the other hand, and by 6.08 if RJ turns out to be Ray, we will still be doubting why he didn't kill patrick in that moment.

So I believe it's one of those two. Haffner or McAllister.

I want Red John to be one of those two. McAllister looks in that shot give me creeps, he's the hell of an actor and could make a really good psycho.
Ray has this crazy weirdo eyes that also would make a good RJ,let alone he fits in almost everything, and that he is smart too, when he wants to show it, like with Teresa at the cafe, he also figures out is about RJ (like did the sheriff).

I wanna say also that those two (ok, let's put stiles in, and we have the final 3 suspects the series is giving us) have the most consolidated relationships with PJ. McAllister plays as a friend this last episodes, Haffner clearly is opposed to Jane, and Stiles likes him, but clearly isn't dependent on him (as RJ definetely is).

So, this is my point of view based on something "close" to what is generally called "logical thinking". However I believe the writers might fuck everything up. I mean they already started it with the list, and then based on that article in the magazine (spoiler jpeg) they established that the Tyger Tyger organisation is Red John's. That's plain stupid, why would RJ acknowledge his nemesis of the existance of a secret web? It doesn't make sense.

That's why I said that I want RJ to be either Haffner or McAllister, but I'm afraid we're gonna have other cake

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