Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I would put 1million dollars on it being someone no one, not even Patrick, thought about.... and that would be MICHAEL KIRKLAND. Yes michael Kirkland, Bob kirkland's twin brother. makes perfect since. Bob never found his brothers body and Michael could have easily impersonated his brother and that's when Patrick shook his hand..... boooyaaaa!!!

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I think the writing has gone shitty recently. Even the idea of coming up with a seven-suspect list is total nonsense. I mean come on, look at the people on that list! Reede Smith, Ray Haffner, Sheriff McAllister! What do they have to do with anything? 


Reede Smith, seriously?? Some fat FBI agent with no self-control?What is he doing in the show, what is he even doing on that list? He literaly came out of nowhere!

Sheriff Thomas McAllister, are you fucking kidding me Bruno Heller? We haven't heard of him for like a thousand years and then he comes back up on PJ's list for no reason... I'm 100% sure nobody even remembered who he was before his name was mentioned on the list.

Ray Haffner, dafuck? He got manipulated by Jane like a hundred times in one episode, and he too comes up from nowhere, admitting to being a member of Visualize. What's the fucking point?

Only Stiles and Kirkland seem clever enough to be the mastermind PJ has been dealing with for all these years, but one is old and dying and the other was prematurely killed (by fucking Reede Smith???) for NO reason that we know of! 

The only other suspect that could have been an acceptable choice as RJ was Partridge, as he had been hanging around RJ crime scenes since the very beginning BUT he too was prematurely killed for no fucking reason and I think it would be shitty writing if he came back from the dead.

Another sloppy writing example: after Kirkland and Partridge died, we never heard of them again, I mean it's not like they were prominent RJ suspects, it's not like they were murdered, it's not like their deaths needed to be investigated! We should have seen an investigation into their deaths but what do we get instead? Some random tattoo story that leads us to think that fucking Reede Smith, McAllister and Bertram are the only remaining RJ suspects? For God's sake.

Bruno Heller and CBS don't give a damn how good or bad the show gets, they don't give a damn who you want RJ to be, they proved their only purpose is to make big filthy money. They only care about keeping their audience watching their fucking commercial breaks. Their audience decreases and all of a sudden they feel like coming up with some list of suspects, killing Partridge and Kirkland (to me the best character in the show so far), making big explosions and crappy tattoo nonsense.

The story has gone completely shitty. They had all the elements they wanted to make it good, plenty of interesting characters. Rosalind Harker? Kristina Frye? PJ's father? Walter Mashburn? Hell no, that'd be too boring, let's come up with irrelevant characters like McAllister Smith or whoever they want to bring back to life. 


Don't be too disappointed when RJ is revealed, I think we all will be anyway, whoever he turns out to be. Heller and CBS will have reached their goal. They will have made a lot of fucking money, but they will have wasted our time for years.


Peace, and sorry for my English mistakes, I try.


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I wish I knew what "Carmen Lee" was about. Are any countries besides America airing the show? Will they be on time?

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FUCK YOU CBS, if you don't get horny reading Fangoria, then I'm Britney Spears.

I'm sorry. CBS irks me. They're irksome.

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Hey anybody think it was weird when lisbon is in the hospital and the nurse asks for "carmen lee or li"?? That was deff a message from red john but what does it mean?!?!

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Theory #10371 • By greenjane
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lots of google news links when i type in "the great red dragon". all of them reviewing the episode. Im optimistic that we shall see it!!!

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While I don't usually give credence to cast lists, the fact Jack Plotnick just showed up and isn't accompanied by Kevin Corrigan (Kirkland) gives the Partridge is RJ theories a big boost. If it was just a "recap of the suspects" kind of appearance it would also include Kirkland's character so in my opinion it indicates a new appearance by Partridge. Of course if my theory that Partridge was an RJ disciple is right then it makes sense that we'd get more story leading up to his death. Either way, obviously Partridge has something else to add to the story, could be as RJ.

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