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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #10483 • By JohnHolmes
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She was planning to take it to the next level with Patrick Jane.

They had planned an evening of a nice candlelight dinner and rented an X-rated movie. When the movie was done they had passionate sex on the kitchen table. Patrick put on the condom and they went about things. When all was said and done...they couldn't find the condom...

Lorelei then became pregnant with Patrick's love child. Patrick however wouldn't leave his wife so Lorelei took matter in to her own hands to eliminate his family to have Patrick all to herself. 



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.Hi, guys!

I think I'll write a lot, but for those who like theories , I want to share why I believe Bob / Michael Kirkland is Red John . Please, read everything, i think it's worth it!

First, let me attest the obvious : Heller said that the list of suspects is reliable and I don't see why he would lie about that. So, why i exclude the other 6 suspects?

Brett Stiles: He is dying , and already has his business with Visualize. In addition, he is too old and sick to fit the description.

Gale Bertram: Among other reasons, I exclude him definitively after the discovery of the 3-dots tattoo . I do not think that Red John would mark himself as his "servants". Besides, I also do not think his physique fitts the description.

Reede Smith: Just like Bertram, tattooed and his physique does not fit the description. To me, he just seems like a bad person, who does the dirty work.

Thomas McAllister: Another tattooed. The script says he is 45 years old, a good age for Red John, but, at glance, I still consider he looks old.

Brett Partridge: He's DEAD . I know, there are many theories against that, but I just think he's a  too convenient suspect . Nerd, weird, fascinated by Red John. I think he fits a serial killer profile, but definitely not the caliber of Red John. If Brett was a serial kille,i think he will be much more like James Panzes/SJ Killer, who seems to think himself smart, but it's just dying for attention. Interestingly to notice, many stories involving serial killers have a figure similar to Partridge, a creepy suspect, interested in violence subjects, but, usually, he exists to be an obvious suspect, that catches everyone's attention, but in the end he does not have the guts to be the main killer.

Ray Haffner: Member of the Visualize, with a shady past, charming, so far is the only one who I can see as charismatic, able to attract men, and especially women. Have resources and, as well as Red John, shows interest in Lisbon. The problem is, at this point, he seems a too good suspect, By exclusion, I just think it sounds too easy points him as Red John.


So why Bob / Michael Kirkland ?

Well, Kirkland's revenge against Red John would be justified if Michael was simply a younger brother, for example. But he specifically cited a twin brother. Probably dead, because his body was never found. ( Ep 6x04 ) Very suspicious, dont u think? they gave us too many details, to not be relevant at all.

Despite the changes, the main victims of Red John are women, killling them by cutting their throat . Kirkland said his mother committed suicide with a razor. He does not specifye, but the throat is a common place to try to kill yourself, which would be symbolic as the choice of RJ's MO. A drunken father, "abandoned " by the weak mother, it all can explain his violent personality and hate against women.

Bob says Michael was saved by Red John, but that person could actually be Brett Stiles. Thus, Stiles knows the real identity of RJ , but has reasons to not reveal it,like protect Visualize. However, be part of the Visualize was not enough for Michael . Then, serial killer Red John was born. This fact even does not make incorrect  Bob's phrase, that Red John killed his brother. "Michael" does not exist anymore , he was dominated by his auter ego Red John.

And because they are twins, it is possible that several scenes we're seeing Michael, not Bob - including episode 5x07 , when he introduces himself to Teresa and Jane. Many people have noticed some variations in behavior and appearance (with beard, no beard, light and dark suits ) of Kirkland over the episodes, which would be an additional clue.

Another fact that caught my attention is that Rosalind Harker , describing Roy/RJ says "He smelled of pine and nail and earth." ( Ep 1x23 ). Michael 's house is in a pine forest!


Tyger Tyger x Red John

"There 's been a thorough house cleaning in California Law enforcement as a result of the vast conspiracy led by Red John . ]" Heller said . Source : http://imgur.com/VrARGRe http://imgur.com/AuZHoQp (Read this article, it talks a lot about the episode 6x08 and the final showdown between PJ x RJ, beyond the future of the characters, two years after RJ's death - which even excludes theories about Cho, Rigsby and Van Pelt).

Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger . But I believe he does not show himself for members; he probably have a right hand man, a second in command that currently handles all the business . I believe that the Tyger goup has grown over time, and today they have activities that do not involve Red John, and they have strength and members enough to continue even without him (just like Visualize, about to lose Stiles).

This theory supports many facts about Red John, and allows the list to be reliable, but with a twist; after all, Jane wans't aware about the existence of Michael.


The Pierrot x Harlequin x Columbine theory

Pierrot is an old Italian play, which features the characters Pierrot, Harlequin and Columbine. Pierrot is in love with Columbine, who is in love with Harlequin. Harlequin is described as a smart, lazy and insolent man. Colombine is described as a beautiful and intelligent woman. Thinking about a couple we love?
 
Pierrot is sad, by his unrequited love. His makeup reflects this and it is VERY similar to Red John's mark . Eyes that seems teary, with a fake smile.  A makeup Pierrot : http://www.facebook-marketing.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Pierrot_f.jpg )

Do you remember that RJ drew his mark differently in Lisbon, with the eyes in vertical lines ? This is a makeup of Columbine! http://brendafma.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/nova-colombina.jpg

And the name Columbine? It's small dove/pigeon in Italian. Pigeons again, it can't be a coincidence!

Please, share your thoughts and tell me what you think. :) Thank you!

PS: Sorry for my english >_< i'm a portuguese native speaker

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I'm changing my answer after last night and after reading an interview with one of the writers. WARNING, me quoting the article may contain SPOILERS. Here is the link..newer article compared to other TV Guide article.So with the quotes below and what we heard from the other article...Jane stands over him and kills him in the park. RJ came out in the open for this too. Stiles is a dying man. He has nothing to lose...thus why he would come out in the open at the park. Also, last night when all three men had the tatoo, Stiles is the one who said "Patrick, look." I think he is leading him along. Stiles and Patrick always had a bond that would fit. Also, if Stiles was dying, this may allow PJ to not actually have to kill him but watch him die in the park...so no hands getting dirty. Just makes more sense. The one rub in this is Stiles has been weak and wouldn't have strength to kill. But maybe that is where Visualize and Tyger/Tyger come in.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mentalist-Fire-Brimstone-Recap-Jane-Red-John-1073216.aspx

Does that make the case for Stiles being Red John stronger or weaker? On the one hand, is he physically capable of committing all these murders? On the other hand, he might be motivated to finish his mission before he dies.
Woodruff: 
You brought up both sides of it, which is exactly what we were sort of hoping for. He is a Red John suspect. I think he's been one of the strongest Red John suspects since his character's introduction, and you get to see him I think in a vulnerable way that we haven't really seen him in before. He's on the run. He's trapped by the FBI. He's forced to live sort of like Julian Assange in this consulate. So maybe what we're hoping is you think a little bit less of him. You think maybe he is on his way out and not capable, just because you sort of seem to feel a little empathy for him. On the other hand, if we are getting to the end of Red John, it's sort of perfect timing. Maybe he's resolving some final things. And the line "a dying man does not fear death" I think could mean a lot, just given how truthful that can be. He has nothing to lose at this point.

We've heard Red John's voice before and it doesn't match up with any of the suspects. How will the show resolve this?
Woodruff: 
We definitely will deal with that, and I think it's done in a really, really great way that's going to be coming up in [Episode 8]. ... We were very aware of that and conscious of it going forward and in dealing with Red John and [his] voice and all that stuff. So it definitely pays off, and faithful viewers will, I think, be satisfied by it.

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Reasons

1) Haffner is in visual, the right age, and was supposedly at the farm when RJ first killed.

2) S6EP6 27:55. Watch his face go blank when he reads Patricks text (Patricks address).

3) They split the suspects into two groups. 1 of the story line from Season 2 and 1 of the story line for the future of the show. 

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Not a theory, even tho I can't wait for the next two episodes, I'm glad they didn't send the Great red dragon in any country, so we all are up to speed on what happens.

Cause forums like this is so much fun to read, and see all the great theories wouldn't be  the same, if some were discussion episode 06 and some episode 07.

S even tho it suck's what CBS did last week I'm glad we all are on the same episode next sunday .

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