Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Apparently everyone is still on the idea that Partridge faked his death.  I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I would like to make an argument that Partridge IS really dead.  Here are some very good options for why Red John would have killed Partridge first.

1.)  It's a trap!:  RJ knew Van Pelt had bugged the suspects phones.  Partridge was not a vital member of Tiger, Tiger, so RJ chose him as bait.  He attacked him, then called in an anonymous tip to lure Jane and Lisbon to the house.  Unfortunately, Jane and Lisbon had a fight, so they were separated at the time, and Jane didn't show.  RJ lets Lisbon live, cuz he's really after Jane.

2.)  He knew too much:  Partridge said "Tiger, Tiger" so we can assume he's a member.  So what does he bring to the table as a member?  Forensics!  That's his profession after all.  He covers up the evidence for various crimes, especially Red John's murders.  He makes sure there is no evidence that can be traced back to RJ.  Therefore, he might know the most incriminating evidence about RJ.  He knew too much, so he was the first to go.

3.)  Ego:  We know RJ is very narcissistic.  Perhaps the thought of Jane qualifying Partridge as a suspect insulted him?  RJ killed Jane's family for insulting him.  It stands to reason that RJ would kill Partridge if he thought he was not worthy of the Red John name.

4.)  He wants to get caught:  RJ has shown he truly loves the cat and mouse game with Patrick.  The fault of genius is that it craves an audience.  Somewhere deep down, RJ really wants to Patrick to figure it out.  He killed Partridge to narrow the suspects and bring Jane one step closer to meeting him in person.

Truth be told guys, I feel those are all legitimate reasons, and I will be really disappointed if Partridge comes back from the dead.  it's such a cliche plot device that we've seen a million times before.  Don't we expect more than that from Bruno Heller?  I know I do. 

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Theory #11032 • By Kartik
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Is red john Forster one person? How do we know if it for sure is a guy or not?

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Ok its time to break thru the illusion and misdirection and get down to brass tax . This is about chess not checkers . Jane is playing by red johns rules by looking into the list of 7. No say in hell rj is on that list. Rj wants the people on the list dead so jane is helping in a sense in order to force rjs hand. Nobody on the list fits the personality of rj at all. Rj is smart . Sherrif reed haffner bertram are all way dumber than jane. Seriously u think rj is just waiting for jane to walk up to him and ask "is it u" and u think jane is just gathering the list of 6 thinking that rj would just let him slowly discover him? Thats checkers this is chess! Tiger tiger is a currupt organization that is searching for rj too. The biggest key is the gps trackers. Rj knowing janes list disnt kill partridge until the trackers were put on. He could of easily did so way before when he first came up witj the list. Only 3 people knew about the gps and patrick knows this. Pj knows who rj is and so does styles . Pj is dealing with tiger tiger in hopes rj will come out of the darkness becuase rj is under the impression that jane thinks its someone from the list. This is pjs leverage . Misdirection is the whole point of the list and most so called fans are misdirected too. This is great. And rjs identity will be a twist! Meaning u didnt see it coming . So all the haters out there saying im crazy and that rj is obviously on the list are not real fans. Have u ever seem tje show? Pj always finds the bad guy that we didnt see coming! Start thinking like patrick and watch as his plans unfolds. God this show is great! And for all u assholes who say "poor writing" by brunk heller is going on should be takem out lol. Do u love the show? Do u watch it religiously? Ok so its poor writing ? F no! Its called poor viewership

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NEW SNEAK PEEK! Just came across this new (although shorter) sneak peek for the next episode... It's good....
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_mentalist/video/Y2BW6NJqCgbvIqWqwNykVKgeqgzdRPFa/the-mentalist-the-grea...

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Theory #11028 • By Stoopkid
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I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. She started the same day jane did. Shook his hand and later called him a sad godless man. She may be red johns daughter or he had a sex change since he is a little crazy. Grace had dated two killers thus far. Bad luck? She is savvy with computers and red john always hacks only her computer! The show seems to show her facial expression more than others and we know how important they are in this show. Especially the time jane is crying and she is smiling. She is into the occult and doesnt believe in jane. We know nothing of her past and if you notice there is something bothering her this season. You can read it on her face when she meets with styles. When rigsby says i love u she replies " i know". Van pelt red john. Red hair . Access to jane and cbi. I also have a hunch that jane knows she is red john and made the list to trick her. Telling lisbon knowing well she would tell van pelt. He is playing chess and winning. Red john wants to take out the tiger tiger people thus why patrick is using them to make the TIGRESS come out of her den and reveal herself. Its a twist and this show is known for them. Watch episode one season 1 and tell me what you think? I also have a theory styles is both her and janes father and why patrick tells styles " i am not your boy".

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My theory is that Bob Kirkland is Red John.  I think that we have been seeing a combination of Michael and Bob throughout the past two seasons, and it was Michael that was murdered by Reede Smith.  The story told to Patrick about the Kirkland's childhood was true, except the brothers name's were switched.  Michael worked his way through the ranks of Homeland Security under his brother's identity, and occasionally Bob (Red John) appears as himself in order to cover his tracks without Michael's knowledge.

Bruno Heller stated that Red John is 100% on the List of Seven, and we don't know for certain that was Bob that was killed, not Michael. 

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Alright guys, mirzaanil posted a painting by William Blake named 'The Great Red Dragon', here's the link -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Red_Dragon_Paintings


As you all well know William Blake is a promininent element of the story because of:

- His poem 'Tyger tyger' 
- His painting 'A Brace of Partridge'

Now one of the Great Red Dragon paintings particularly drew my attention: 
http://www.gailgastfield.com/pageart/Blake_RedDragon.jpg

Look at the dragon's tail, it draws three loops. Does it remind you of anything? Three dots, growing bigger from left to right. That's right folks, exactly the same as the tattoos.


Any thoughts? Do you think this has got anything to do with the story?

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