Hi guys,
Just a quick question out of curiosity and fun..Where are you from??
Green = Europe or UK
Red = USA, Australia or other parts of the world
:)
Hi guys,
Just a quick question out of curiosity and fun..Where are you from??
Green = Europe or UK
Red = USA, Australia or other parts of the world
:)
I don't really think Rigsby is Red John. However, it was weird that Rigsby told Cho that he was going to fix him up with a girl. Then the female dectective shows up and starts coming on to Cho. Rigsby could not have murdered her because he was at HQ as her murder was in progress. Is this just a coincidental or maybe evidence of some unapparent connection? Perhaps the writers are just toying with us. Maybe Rigsby or Cho has three dots tattooed on his left shoulder.
The suspence builds!
What is with CBI Ron and CBI Karl?
Getting real tired of people accusing Partridge of being RJ,he's dead for gods sake!! At this point,RJ can only be someone we never suspected.Maybe it's Jane.
One of the main themes is the difference between how Jane and Lisbon pursue RJ. Jane is for personal vigilante vengence while Lisbon has built her career on the law. Yet in s2e6 we learn that she looked the other way for a personal friendship with Boscoe when he killed a bad guy the law let slip. Would she do any less for Jane.......
Main Plot Spoilers: Once you read them, you can't unread them. You can press red, but the best you can hope for is that you didn't really understand what you were reading, thus you forget the spoilers. Just a warning.
- Brett Partridge was Red John (leader of Tyger Tyger)
- Ray Haffner was Roy Tagliaferro
- Lorelei Martins was still alive
- Red John bugged Lisbon to figure out the list at the same time Lisbon found out
- The scene of Jane telling Lisbon the other 6 names is in a flashback
- The accomplice who gives the CD to Jane arrives late in the night, because she had to drive to RJ, who was making the CD at the site with Lorelei, then the accomplice had to drive back to her house to deliver the CD to Jane
- Jane pulled off an 8 episode trick to outsmart Red John (the trick is adjusted after episode 6)
- "Heisma" was Heisman trophy of Ray Haffner - Well done to whoever figured that out.
- Red John's last murders since Eileen Turner was the Jane family
- All the other murders seemed to fall to accomplices, most commonly Haffner aka Roy Tagliaferro
-Robert Kirkland launched an investigation into Tyger Tyger many years ago
-A flashback in season 2 shows him in a meeting with Minelli, where he persuaded Minelli to resign
-Gale Bertram became the new Boss. He was inserted as a Triple Agent into Tyger Tyger by Kirkland to fish out information on Tyger Tyger
-Flashback shows Gale Bertram talking to Bob Kirkland with coffee in the park
-Flashback show its Michael Kirkland who warns Lisbon about Volker, kills Jason Lennon and a feature including Michael Kirkland's arrest and switch with Robert Kirkland in prison, with a small replay of Reede shooting Michael
-The meeting with Smith, Reede and Bertram was about how they were going to clean up law-enforcement as they'd made big steps in gathering information but what they really needed was for Patrick to catch the leader, Red John.
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Nice little hints left for us:
Ray Haffner was Roy Tagliaferro (Rosalynd you lied about his damn height you blind bat!)
If you watch the Lorelei Martins' video, there is a massive pause before Ray Haffner's name is announced, which is disguised by Jane and Lisbon's exchange of looks.
Ray Haffner raped and killed Lorelei's sister, as Red John told her. That's why she's not angry at Red John himself and complies with the video.
Partridge, the great Red John, outsmarted by a photographer:
Partridge: "Red John's been laying low for years, working through friends and proxies."
Val Ziskin (Photographer): "He killed just recently didn't he?"
The only person who knew Lorelei Martins was still alive was Red John. Partridge says Red John has been laying low for years. The only person who knew that was Red John. I can't believe I ever thought that this guy was a mastermind. . . Everyone else thinks he's just killed Lorelei Martins. Then he runs his mouth trying to get caught. In episode 8, it is revealed since the murders of Angela and Charlotte Jane, Partridge did not physically kill one person himself until Eileen Turner.
Sean Barlow was a friend of Red John
If you recall Sean Barlow "Any punk killer who wants to fool with you can paint a smiley face on the wall, OOOO it's Redjohn."
This turned out to be true, haha! Any way, he guilted Patrick into telling Lisbon the list. When Lisbon who was bugged, heard the list, Redjohn also heard it. So yeah, he turned out to be pretty important.
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I'm sure you can find many more little hints and teasers that were dropped during course of the 6 seasons. But yes, it turned out, they really did have the answers. Thanks for a great show. RIP John.
I just have a feeling about Bertram... and I might be going a bit far-out here but here me out...
The writing on the wall when Jerod was killed, it could have meant "He is Married"
Indicating a red john accomplice... now with all the connections to Lisbon behaving strangely, would it not be a fantastic twist if she was Red Johns wife?
Anyway, just wanted to share the married thing, seems to be something a friend of a friend would know.