Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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You're wondering why Patrick Jane's head is on the front. I am going to attempt explain who Red John is from Patrick's point of view. If I get any greens at all, that'll be some achievement.

Seeing as we're in the mind of Patrick Jane, this may be the most elaborate theory you may ever read... and I fully understand the correlation between the detail of a theory and the number of implausible's it will receive :P 


In 5 x 8, Jane discovers he's shaken hands with Red John. Not much later, Jane figures out Red John is Brett Partridge, using Rosalynd Harker's description.

But he can't just go and shoot him. Someone will try and kill him in revenge. So he needs to bring down RJ's network of friends. So he makes a list of people he thinks are associated with Red John from law-enforcement and the cult Visualise. He already knows for certain Bret Stiles and Gale Bertram have been part of his plans. Next Jane uses the prodigious talent for observation he had displayed so frequently in seasons 1-3, to the connect the others to Red John and that is how "the list" was born.

He preempts Red John's next move. Someone is going to bug him or someone close to him to find out about if he knows who he is. Patrick pretends he never heard a description from Rosalynd Harker when he makes his supposed "list". He puts the real Red John onto the list of 7, so Red John knows he's close. According to Patrick's criteria, these are 7 random men that could be at the crime scenes. Yet they are all known to the audience now to have a link to Red John. 

When Patrick tells Teresa the list in Red John's Rules, and later that night, RJ's accomplice delivers a video predicting the list, Patrick has got him. He knows Partridge has fallen for his trap and Lisbon is the person who was bugged. He gave her false signals from Red Barn onwards, saying he remembered every person he ever met. 

And in the video Red John calls it 'a feat of memory,' confirming, Lisbon is the one who was bugged. For all we know, Patrick could have made that up (although we know he can do it, it might not be necessary). He is playing an elaborate charade. In Desert Rose, Red John keeps Teresa alive because he thinks Lisbon is a valuable source of information.

Then in Desert Rose, Patrick continues to maintain a charade. Black-Winged Redbird, he ignores the woman from Visualise dressed up like Patrick, he says Red John has "acrophobia" instead of acaraphobia on purpose. He is keen to see which suspects are going to fake a fear of heights, and which of them will begin whistling in front of him or Lisbon.
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Then Patrick goes to investigate the "suspects". 

GO and rewatch "Red Lacquer Nail Polish." Jane already knows Partridge is Red John then. Then go and rewatch "Desert Rose," Jane knows Partridge is Red John. Patrick who is several steps ahead goes so far as to taunt him "You truly don't know, do you?" Partridge probably thinks Jane does that to everyone on the list.

Bertram calls himself duplicitous and calculating and he is very intent on catching Red John. This confuses Patrick. Then he sees a meeting of 3 suspects. When they don't respond to his "bugged...wired" suggestion, he knows they don't know who Red John is.

Sherriff McAllister saves his life after feigning a fear of heights. Patrick says to him "One of my many flaws is that I sometimes give mixed signals."

Bertram repeatedly reminds Patrick he wants to catch Red John.

When Reede Smith says its going to be "Jurisdictional clusterbomb," and says "No hard feelings to Jane," Jane begins to suspect everyone in the meeting was an undercover agent who work for Homeland Agent, Bob Kirkland, who is hunting Red John just like him.

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One day, Partridge is getting a bit bored. He knows he controls all the suspects, so he decides to play a little game with Patrick. What Partridge doesn't know is that he's once again falling into Jane's hands. Partridge thinks: "I'll give him a clue, I'll show him the Tyger Tyger tattoo. He'll go round shooting them all ahahaha, it will be like Timothy Carter 2.0. Man I'm such a genius. *talking to his pigeons*"

Once Patrick sees the tattoo, he goes and tells Lisbon straight away. Patrick, who guards intel on RJ so closely, just goes and makes a show in front of her. So Red John hears of course. He knows 3 of the suspects, who have the tattoo, will be good. But what he desperately needs is for Stiles and Haffner to attend. Stiles is the source of RJ's accomplices.

Well, next episode, Haffner and Stiles are both taken care off. And McAllister too. Whether they're dead or kidnapped it doesn't matter. STILES is out of the way. Reede Smith and Gale Bertram are on the run, and Patrick isn't terribly harmed. It's basically impossible for me to predict what happens next... but what Patrick would want is for Tyger Tyger to be completely exposed. The Visualise link is dead. Bret Stiles and Haffner are taken care of. So, I expect the next phase would be Red John's Tyger Tyger link.

Then Patrick can go and kill Red John in the park, once he has truly destroyed him in this final game of mental chess. Patrick was many steps ahead for a long, long time. The risk of revenge is so much is smaller now Visualise and Tyger Tyger have loose links to Red John.

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I really like the "mental" theories on this website..I honestly have no idea how people can come up with some stuff in such detail and how enthusiastic they are..

My head is so full of the 7 suspects that it's quite refreshing to sometimes read theories where someone accuses Luther Wainwright ("the little boy" -dead) or Ellis Mars or Dr Steiner (dead)..:D

What are we going to do when Red John is gone?? It's so much fun to guess! :)

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Brett partridge is DEAD! I read people say ot obvious hes rj obvious hes alive !? Really? I thought people were joking around about the partridge but apparently people are serious. He literally died for all of us to see . Not dead when people showed up he died right in front of lisbon. So what there is pidgeons everywhere !!!! His name is pauly pidgeon!!!! There is no pear trees anywhere !!!! Hit unlikely i dont care you act like your using "logic" . This show isnt logical plus he died and its not logical think otherwise . I know people have there opinions but please stop with this one .

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Don't know if this means much, but we have seen 2 instances where someones fingers were cut off or were going to be cut off.

1) Red John ordered Lorelei Martins to cut off 2 of Jane's fingers.

2) Bob Kirkland cut off one of the fake suspects fingers.

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Bruno Heller said that it was very important for Partridge to die in the first episode, but i haven't find out a good explanation of this yet. OK so I will try to explain it.

Killing Partridge (everyone's favorite until season 6) at the first episode before giving away more clues about Red John and not clearly allowing us to see his death ensured that none can be 100% sure about who Red John is. Every theory about Partridge has a big question: "But. what if Partridge is really dead?" and every theory about every other suspect has another big question: "What if Partridge is not really dead?".
By doing this Bruno really ensured that none will be 100% sure about Red John before his actual reveal and he really succeeded. With the blurry death of Brett Partridge everyone asks himself either one of the 2 questions above after completing his thought about a suspect, none is sure.

That's why I tend to believe that Partridge is really dead and the reason above is why Bruno didn't really clearly show us that he is dead, but that's my opinion.

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Ok I have three thoughts.

1) Has anyone thought of the possibility that "he is mar" if finished would say "he is marked"... as in the tattoos? (this is the one that I would like feedback on)

These two are just musings
2) I think that Tolman Bunting would have been a really fun Red John.

3) i think it would have been best if the series would have ended after season three. Timothy Carter was a perfect Red John.  He was just creepy enough without being too creepy, he had the right voice, and he fit the description better that most of the current suspects.

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What's with the crazy, long theories?

Brett Partridge is Roy Tagliaferro. Brett Partridge is Red John. Do we really need to make theories with our own plotholes to steer it to being someone else?

If someone wants to say "Brett Partridge is dead," that's cool. But he's still Red John. Red John isn't dead, he's just killed his another alias. So I don't get how Brett Partridge *isn't* Red John. If you could please tell me 1 good reason that completely wipes out Partridge, I'll be happy to believe you.

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