.Hi, guys!

I think I'll write a lot, but for those who like theories , I want to share why I believe Bob / Michael Kirkland is Red John . Please, read everything, i think it's worth it!

First, let me attest the obvious : Heller said that the list of suspects is reliable and I don't see why he would lie about that. So, why i exclude the other 6 suspects?

Brett Stiles: He is dying , and already has his business with Visualize. In addition, he is too old and sick to fit the description.

Gale Bertram: Among other reasons, I exclude him definitively after the discovery of the 3-dots tattoo . I do not think that Red John would mark himself as his "servants". Besides, I also do not think his physique fitts the description.

Reede Smith: Just like Bertram, tattooed and his physique does not fit the description. To me, he just seems like a bad person, who does the dirty work.

Thomas McAllister: Another tattooed. The script says he is 45 years old, a good age for Red John, but, at glance, I still consider he looks old.

Brett Partridge: He's DEAD . I know, there are many theories against that, but I just think he's a  too convenient suspect . Nerd, weird, fascinated by Red John. I think he fits a serial killer profile, but definitely not the caliber of Red John. If Brett was a serial kille,i think he will be much more like James Panzes/SJ Killer, who seems to think himself smart, but it's just dying for attention. Interestingly to notice, many stories involving serial killers have a figure similar to Partridge, a creepy suspect, interested in violence subjects, but, usually, he exists to be an obvious suspect, that catches everyone's attention, but in the end he does not have the guts to be the main killer.

Ray Haffner: Member of the Visualize, with a shady past, charming, so far is the only one who I can see as charismatic, able to attract men, and especially women. Have resources and, as well as Red John, shows interest in Lisbon. The problem is, at this point, he seems a too good suspect, By exclusion, I just think it sounds too easy points him as Red John.


So why Bob / Michael Kirkland ?

Well, Kirkland's revenge against Red John would be justified if Michael was simply a younger brother, for example. But he specifically cited a twin brother. Probably dead, because his body was never found. ( Ep 6x04 ) Very suspicious, dont u think? they gave us too many details, to not be relevant at all.

Despite the changes, the main victims of Red John are women, killling them by cutting their throat . Kirkland said his mother committed suicide with a razor. He does not specifye, but the throat is a common place to try to kill yourself, which would be symbolic as the choice of RJ's MO. A drunken father, "abandoned " by the weak mother, it all can explain his violent personality and hate against women.

Bob says Michael was saved by Red John, but that person could actually be Brett Stiles. Thus, Stiles knows the real identity of RJ , but has reasons to not reveal it,like protect Visualize. However, be part of the Visualize was not enough for Michael . Then, serial killer Red John was born. This fact even does not make incorrect  Bob's phrase, that Red John killed his brother. "Michael" does not exist anymore , he was dominated by his auter ego Red John.

And because they are twins, it is possible that several scenes we're seeing Michael, not Bob - including episode 5x07 , when he introduces himself to Teresa and Jane. Many people have noticed some variations in behavior and appearance (with beard, no beard, light and dark suits ) of Kirkland over the episodes, which would be an additional clue.

Another fact that caught my attention is that Rosalind Harker , describing Roy/RJ says "He smelled of pine and nail and earth." ( Ep 1x23 ). Michael 's house is in a pine forest!


Tyger Tyger x Red John

"There 's been a thorough house cleaning in California Law enforcement as a result of the vast conspiracy led by Red John . ]" Heller said . Source : http://imgur.com/VrARGRe http://imgur.com/AuZHoQp (Read this article, it talks a lot about the episode 6x08 and the final showdown between PJ x RJ, beyond the future of the characters, two years after RJ's death - which even excludes theories about Cho, Rigsby and Van Pelt).

Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger . But I believe he does not show himself for members; he probably have a right hand man, a second in command that currently handles all the business . I believe that the Tyger goup has grown over time, and today they have activities that do not involve Red John, and they have strength and members enough to continue even without him (just like Visualize, about to lose Stiles).

This theory supports many facts about Red John, and allows the list to be reliable, but with a twist; after all, Jane wans't aware about the existence of Michael.


The Pierrot x Harlequin x Columbine theory

Pierrot is an old Italian play, which features the characters Pierrot, Harlequin and Columbine. Pierrot is in love with Columbine, who is in love with Harlequin. Harlequin is described as a smart, lazy and insolent man. Colombine is described as a beautiful and intelligent woman. Thinking about a couple we love?
 
Pierrot is sad, by his unrequited love. His makeup reflects this and it is VERY similar to Red John's mark . Eyes that seems teary, with a fake smile.  A makeup Pierrot : http://www.facebook-marketing.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Pierrot_f.jpg )

Do you remember that RJ drew his mark differently in Lisbon, with the eyes in vertical lines ? This is a makeup of Columbine! http://brendafma.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/nova-colombina.jpg

And the name Columbine? It's small dove/pigeon in Italian. Pigeons again, it can't be a coincidence!

Please, share your thoughts and tell me what you think. :) Thank you!

PS: Sorry for my english >_< i'm a portuguese native speaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8GNkIyDRU

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND WHO RED JOHN IS

I'm sure that in the episodes where we heard RJ's voice.... it was definitely that of Bob Kirkland. I totally recognised it. I know he's dead now, but I am certain it was his voice. I have voice recognition hearing! If it turns out that it is not Bob Kirkland, the show will have to explain why Bob Kirkland's voice was used for those lines.

this is my 8th attempt to post on the site, hope this now works

Ok I know this is a stretch but..
We know that PJ and BK have shaken hands, so I does tick that box, he is also the right age and physical build. I personally think that it would make sense to be him just because it would be unexpected because he is supposedly dead (just like Partridge).

This is only my personal opinion but I think that the scene with him a PJ when he is trying to get names from PJ is very significant and may be a clue. He tells PJ that he wants to find RJ because he killed his brother or was responsible for his death. What if BK is RJ and he in-fact rather than actually killing his brother he did not stop him from being killed, e.g. did not help him in a time of need during his childhood.

This could lead to the hidden phobia that RJ has, that is the fear of failure or Atychiphobia. This would explain 2 things, his internal conflict about his failure in saving his brother and also his reaction to PJ criticisms that lead him to kill his wife and child. As well as this it would also explain why the counselor questioned his ability to handle hardship or tragedy, seeing that it had actually shaped him as a person. His Atychiphobia would also explain why he is so careful and never leaves any clues behind.

Lastly the fact that he broke in to PJ office to steal the list of RJ names could have simply been his way of 1. clearing his name as RJ, showing that he was interested in catching him and 2. making sure the PJ didn't have anything that could lead to him being found out as being RJ. The scene where he cuts off the mans finger for information could be another point of proving his innocence to PJ.

An interesting twist to this would be if no one actually knew he was RJ even the members of tyger tyger. This would further remove him from suspicion. His death could as well have been faked, even Rigsby comments on the fact that there is very little follow up and even the report looks dodgy.

I know this is a stretch but it would be an interesting twist.
I could imagine Patrick walking into RJs house and seeing childhood photos of him and his brother and then seeing how it caused him to kill out of his own internal anger. 

Hello, everybody.
This is not really theory, rather what we should think it really happened when Heller and the production ruin the whole plot with absurd explanations, dumb motives, pompastic twists. I believe that not only Heller had no clue about RJ identity when he gave the interview on season 5, but as well that the show starts to fall short of logic. The last thing is Partridge dying with the words Tyger Tyger in his mouth, instead of "Get X (here be RJ true name". This is so lame, unoriginal, and not the only stupid behaviour seen on the show starting from mid season 5 (for ex the Lorelei episodes and PJ, the titular Mentalist, incapable to make her reveal RJ identity...).

So, the only satisfactory eplanation NOW is that RJ is one of the Kirkland brothers. Otherwise you can't explain season 5 scene with the wounded RJ disciple in the hospital. If Kirkland is so determined to track down RJ to even resort to torture, he would have had no point in just finishing him off instead of getting the name out of him. The real RJ, his twin, would have acted like this. Besides the "fearful symmetry" clue, as someone has already noted, perfectly fits with the "twin" (triplets also allowed...) contrivance.

Every writer, screenwriter, storyteller (and viewer) knows that when the talk goes about twins, you should expect something cool happening...
Hope you didn't cock it, Heller.

his bruv

the cop who visited Rigsby with the report on the death of Kirkland.
he had been seen before?

that is Bob Kirkland

mike is now dead courtecy of Reede

and I thank you