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Just curious as to what everyone thinks about Bob Kirkland's twin brother being Red John? I was not down with this theory at first, but then it dawned on me... Maybe when he went to the hospital to kill that one guy ( was his name Jason??) he asked "Do you recognize me?" Because he was Red John, Bobs twin, and NOT Bob after all? We just assumed it was Bob Kirkland ...? Why would we find out about a brother after all, and why a TWIN? Just throwing some questions out there, feel free to answer me or set my questions straight!

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Red John is the missing brother of Kirkland , he disappear and he is part of Red John's group , and he is one of the seven on the list , since he is twin  , in my opinion , could be him...

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Ok... I think i have it figured out and i want to get this theory out there before tonight's episode airs because the earlier u figure it out the better right?

ok so here goes.

The first time we MEET kirkland is in season 5 episode 5 "Red Dawn" . I think that this is a clue. dawn implies beginning and red john should have been there at the start. I know that the start should be the pilot but this episode precedes the pilot on the timeline and so it is a clever way of showing us red John at the dawn of PJ joining the CBI.

Plus this episode is special because it is the hundredth episode. A good time to introduce us to RJ.

By the way there is a guy in the pilot first scene with a tattoo, if anyone has access to the scene please let me know if his description could fit kirkland. I doubt we get a good look but i am interested.

Anyway i digress...

The second time we meet kirkland is in season 5 episode 7. He runs into Jane and they shake hands! Jane says do i know you and kirkland responds no but i know you. has jane seen him before??? 

The next episode with kirkland, lorelei says that red john is someone jane knows and that they have shaken hands.

Later on in the season we see kirkland kill jason cooper, a known RJ accomplice but first he asks him if he has seen kirkland before!!!

Finally in season 6 we see that bob kirkland has been tracking RJ because he has a brother who he believes is dead and that red john killed.

This scene is key for me and was the first time since i started watching the show that i felt like we were getting somewhere with red john.

I think that RJ is michael kirkland and here is why:

1. Fearful symmetry from tyger tyger poem is a clue that RJ is a twin

2. RJ is filled with anger because of his past. Micheal kirkland's past fits.

3. Michael kirkland's life is spiralling out of control when he meets a "savior". He is mentored by bret stiles and acquires the skilll set he uses as red john. He then disappears. And his brother wrongly believes that RJ killed him.

4. Rosalind says that RJ smells of pine and Michael kirkland lives near a pine forest.

5. we dont know whether we have seen micheal kirkland because every time we have seen kirkland we have always assumed it was bob.

6. Michael could have shaken hands with Jane. 

7. The list is too obvious. Anyone of the 5 still on the list will not be the big reveal the writer's are looking for.

8. It also has to be someone we have seen before but are not considering,

9. Bob is psychotic because of his childhood, michael will be even more so because he stayed in it longer.

10. His mother committed suicide to escape her abusive husband. Michael felt abandoned and hates women. RJ mainly kills women.

If red john is anyone on that list especially haffner, i will be very disappointed.

Michael kirkland people. Michael kirkland


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Last night, "Diamonds Are Forever," the last Sean Connery James Bond movie, circa 1971, was on the TV. 

1) Diamonds were hidden by being put into a chandelier [a plot in The Mentalist, SEASON ONE Ep. 4  "LADIES IN RED"]

2)  The Bond girl was a REDHEAD

3) Played POKER in LAS VEGAS/most of setting was CALIFORNIA & LAS VEGAS 

4)  went to a CARNIVAL

5)  REDHEAD played a game where you shoot water into a CLOWN FACE

6)  And the villian had  a TWIN [made through plastic surgery]

7)  Hero is a cocky know-it-all who gets the best of everyone

I think Heller must have seen this movie a few times when he was a kid LOL -- though The Mentalist is FAR better than this lesser Bond movie.

BUT if Red John is anything like this movie -- then the villian is the guy with the TWIN:  KIRKLAND [which one, I do not know]

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Some curious facts about Bob Kirkland:

- Why was he drinking Jane's wife and daughter's favorite drink ?
- Since he was seeking RJ, why did he not ask Lennon about RJ's identity instead of killing him?
- What did he mean by 'just do it here' (what he told R.Smith before he got shot in the back)

- Most important, the fact that he told Jane that he never found his twin bro's dead body and never heard of him again, I think Michael Kirkland has definitely something to do with RJ. Kirkland asking around 'Do you recognize me, have you ever seen me before?' has something to do with his twin bro and all these details and questions remain unanswered. 

Though I hope RJ isn't Sheriff or Smith,because com'on guys those men just popped up from nowhere! Bertram looks pretty shady so I believe either he's involved with RJ or the Tyger Tyger's somehow or both, either he's just doing his job searching for a dangerous serial killer.

Now Stiles: he's definitely involved with RJ, either he knows him (I am quite sure he does) cause he was working in that farm of Visualize's, and Bret has proven to be aware of RJ's plans several times.
Ray Haffner has the look, is a member of Visualize, which is why lots of fans' money is on him, though I think he is either not clever enough to be RJ or acts like it. I know he likes Teresa, he's good at whistling and blah blah blah but I'd be disappointed if he was RJ as far as I'm concerned.

So let's sum it up: Smith and Sheriff aren't definitely Red John (too many would be disappointed) but might work for him. Bertram too and I think that'd be great news for the fans (I mean I would find it amazing, like 'omg and Bertram was one of RJ's accomplices all that time'). Stiles does know him and maybe even protects him. It is not Haffner, moreover he appeared too late in the series.

Kirkland appeared too late in the series too but he fits the role more than anyone does. I know he's dead but there might be some trick involving his twin brother, let's keep an eye on them.
Finally there's Partridge: many's favorite. He was in the very first episode, on the first crime scene which guess what, was RJ's copycat. He's dead too but let's not forget this show is all about tricks and the culprit is always on screen since the beginning, they never pop up of nowhere.


So my money's on Kirkland or Partridge.

Though I must admit CBI Ron fits the role too, I mean he's been in the background since the beginning, I think we should also keep an eye on him as he might get more important over the next few episodes.


Thanks for reading, leave comments if you think I'm wrong or right :)

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There are 3 episodes left before RJ identity is revealed and the preview for next episode hints that Jane is going to gather the suspects and under gun point make RJ reveal the tattoo. But that would be far too easy and the identity of RJ is not revealed until 8th episode.

That means RJ is not one of the 5 suspects. 

The only real suspect left is Bob Kirkland's brother.

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Bruno is such a smartass, he himself is the mentalist that manipulate us by the 7 suspects. I think this might lead to a reminiscence of the movie 'the Prestige' . I believe that the death of Kirkland was faked, the driver could be some RJ disciples pretend to be Tyger Tyger's clan. Ok or he might switch with Michael or sth. The fact that they are twin leads to many possibilities. 

If Kirkland is smart, he knows Reed is after him, after Kirkland revealed about the secret society thingy and he has to shut Kirkland to keep the Tyger Tyger society's secret. So he must have suspected Reed's coming, and make him believe about his death. 

Btw i think the story that RJ killed Michael is a made up, to separate the two characters. According to the history of Kirkland's family the twins can be red handed to be the sadist homicides mastermind. 

I think RJ was doing all these to reveal 'Tyger Tyger' society and revenged to the 'Visualizer's, which he made into one of the scapegoat before he terminate them. RJ uses Jane and the rest of suspect to hunt each others. Jane is not his 'real' opponent, but a 'pawn'. 


Somebody will be back from 'death' i am sure of it. ;) not partridge, i will hate Bruno if that happen.

And if i am the director, i will cast somebody charismatic, charming and full of mystery kind of guy like Kirkland to be my Red John. The rest of them just don't look right.. haha

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