Hi all,

I am almost certain that Red John is bob kirkland, clues many clues were breifly inserted at the end scenes of some episodes in season 5.

1st clue was the episode that showed to us when the flash back of how Patrick joined the CBI and the end scene where the director of the FBI called the x boss of the CBI to tell him that Patrick was in the loony bin for six months, and when she ended the call in. The limo bob was there.

2nd clue was when bob was first introduced in the show and he shoke hands with patrick in the cooridoor and said Patrick's name while patrick has no idea who he was.

3rd clue was that Bob searched patricks office to see what he knows and we then find out what red John knows of patricks list.

And also we know Bob is not young as he was around in the 1980's killing already at the barn farm episode.

But I suppect that maybe red john is a cult not a person if you know what I mean.

Any thoughts?

I've been watching and reading theories here pretty much from the beginning and thought I'd finally share my thoughts. This is the first of them.

This time I suspect Robert 'Bob' Kirkland, the Homeland Security agent. Anyone who has watched the fifth season knows this guy and everyone knows he has something to do with Red John. I will analyse every option.

First let's say he's RJ himself. I personally think he'd make the best Red John of 'em all. I know he might be a bit too obvious and suspicious but maybe Bruno Heller wants to fool us with that. He has always made all the tricks so suprising and this time the most obvious could in fact be the most surprising.
  He's appearance is something I've always thought RJ woild have; His voice, height, personality etc. Also fits Rosalind Harker's description.
  Now to the scenes of the show. 
First appearance: The limo scene was suspicious and the fact that Kirkland has actually always been there makes it a good twist.
First meeting with Jane: If Kirkland is revealed to be RJ, this scene will be pure gold. The lines were brilliant!
Kirkland: *bumps into Jane* Sorry mr. Jane.
Jane: Do I know you?
Kirkland: No, but I know you. *Shakes his hand and smiles, then walks away*
And the music makes it all even more epic. This happened in the episode before the one where Lorelei tells Jane he has shaken hands with RJ.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-H9QGov4Y
Killing Jason Lennon: He asks Lennon if he recognizes him and the answer is negative. Maybe Bob manipulated Lennon to forget his face (RJ can manipulate people) or he had a face surgeon.
The list: If he is RJ then it means Lorelei is still alive. They just tricked Patrick so he wouldn't suspect that.
That's pretty much all I can dig up. If RJ then he could be Patrick's brother. It's possible that Patrick wasn't the only child.

Also it's possible that he's like Jane, trying to catch Red John. It would explain the list and that killing Lennon would eliminate the possibility of Jane getting info of RJ.

Now the third option. If Kirkland is RJ accomplice, he's not just any accomplice. He's RJ's right hand. Maybe a new one or the original. Orville Tanner. What if he didn't die? What if he went missing and had a face surgery? 


Sure some people would get disappointed if Kirkland is RJ. He's the best (imo) and the safest possibility. 

Thanks for reading! Tell me if I missed something important!

   Much like others on this site, I tend to believe that Brett Partridge is not dead. But in fact he might actually be. We;re going to know for sure the next episode. The proofs will be Brett's dead body and another dead suspect or at least one of them.
   My attention is now focused on Bob Kirkland. There are a lot of reasons. Firstly he is an odd guy. Secondly he is interested in Jane's suspects map, so much interested that he gets a copy for him, not without giving Jane a hunch when the latter realises his space was invaded when the match piece at its place. Thirdly, at the hospital he asks Jason Lennon: "Do you recognize me? Have you seen me before?". This means either that if he is Red John, he doesn't show his face to all of his apprentices or that he's had surgery. The not matching fact about Kirkland is that he has not shaken the hands with Jane, in the past as Lorelei said.
    My other suspect is Ray Haffner, given that he is a member of Visualise and that as he refuses to answer Lisbon, he might have been at the farm when the crimes were committed. If he is the same age as the actor portraying him(Reed Diamond) is, he might've been taken as some kid since he was about 21 at the time. The not matching fact is that he is exactly 6' tall, and according to Rosalind Harker's description RJ is "just under 6' tall". But considering that Harker is blind we may as well pretend she was not really right about RJ's height.
    Finally I can tell that Lisbon is still alive because the smiley face on her face marks Partridge's death, not hers. She was just unconscious as RJ might've used drugs to get her in this state.
    Another thing I'm thinking of is that the suspects may have some connections with RJ, or even between each other.

I think it's Kirkland. Not a strong accusation but I just find everything he does is so creepy and weird. He went to the scene of martens death and the cameras focused on his face and it was so freeky and kinda scary. Also the fact that he always where's a red tie is just weird.

Okay...from the top: Patridge is finally out. That leaves 6. But all 6 are working in concert. Jane(We) will find the reason Patridge dies in episode 4. Rigsby and Vanpelt are killed in episode 3, and in the next episode Bertram is in a meeting with: Haffner, R. Smith,  and McCalister. In the preview someone asks "What does Jane know?" and Bertram answer's with: "That is the question..."  

   So that and with last season's meetings with Bertram and Kirkland make this whole thing point at Kirkland being the ring leader, and you are probably right about Stile's son..whom is probably Kirkland...

When does Kirkland come back in? Or Stiles for that matter?

Anybody else notice when Lisbon is outside a car passes and she gives a slight turn as that something struck her attention? But remember she also was just getting off phone so it was one of those your in middle of something but something else happens to pass by and you do a suttle glance....

Also its dark outside where in the heck is the light coming from that is shone behind the windows? Could it be car lights?

HERES Another THings

REDJOHN how many letters is that? How many people are on this List? 7 now that could just be coincidence :)))))

It's not Partridge, since he is dead.
I think the phone tracking maps might be the clue in the final scenes. Since there were no other phones showing up co-located with Partridge's, we can assume RJ left his phone somewhere when he went to kill Partridge. Which is also why he used Lisbon's phone to call Jane. That makes sense, as he knew about the tracking. So, if his phone was left somewhere, it likely isn't "in transit." According to the map Lisbon was looking at, that should eliminate Stiles, McAllister, and Haffner, who were all in transit during the murder. So that leaves Kirkland, Smith, and Bertram. Smith and Bertram don't fit the physical profile of RJ, which we know from the few times he has been seen, and also from the description by his blind girlfriend. That leaves Kirkland, who left his phone in LA when he realized he was being tracked, and went to Sac. to kill Partridge.

I think he killed Partridge because Bertram thinks Kirkland is on the up and up, and is working to find Red John. Bertram must suspect Haffner, who was inside the CBI. Which explains why he and Kirkland discussed whether they can trust Lisbon. Would she blab something to Haffner, accidentally or on purpose, that would compromise what Bertram thought he and Kirkland were doing? Partridge's death will validate Haffner's guilt to Bertram.

But who really knows? RJ could have purposely left his phone in a taxi, so that it would appear to be "not left behind." And there are still a lot of things that don't make sense. Where WAS RJ hiding when he popped out and grabbed Lisbon? That suggests it had to be Partridge, "hiding in plain sight." And is it true Jane didn't meet Kirkland until AFTER he was told about the hand shake clue? That suggests it ISN'T Kirkland. I hope it all makes sense after all is said and done.