OK, can we have a group discussion here. Mostly about Partridge and his death and mostly about the last scene of 6-1 and the first scene of 6-2....and the last scene of 6-2

So here is the last scene of 6-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mYSnFVipYA

Lisbon encounters birds...pigeons it seemed by the way they sounded...this has to connect. We see Partridge fall out of a closet. So he was bound and standing. He says Tyger/Tyger. Lisbon steps away about 5 feet, hears water dripping. She is facing Brett on the floor but then stares at that sink. Not sure if that is the clue but it's mysterious. She is then...I've watched it 50 times...snatched dead from behind. Now, being a rational thinker who likes to see all sides I can see how a Partridge Fan might think that once she turns to the sink, that gives him time to grab her. But I don't see how in that 3 seconds he gets on his feet, makes up 5-8 feet and grabs her. My theory is he is dead and that RJ was either in that closet too or in another part of the room. I can see how this leaves open Partridge for some...the way she was faced but then we get to.....

Episode 2, Scene 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tub4G4m0Tfc

Guy says they have one male DOA, Partridge. So he is dead right? The reaction of Bertram leads me to believe that not only is Bertram not RJ but that his pause meant Partridge may have been a Tyger/Tyger associate on the fringe. BUT I just don't think you have all of these people show up at the scene and you take away a body and no one realizes he isn't dead. I know that RJ has people within all agencies helping but this would seem to involve way too many agencies and people to make it work. I also can understand how BP Fans would say that it was a ruse by the ME's office and others involved in the whole conspiracy.

I guess it just looks to me like he is dead but I can see how some would link all the other clues as to why he isn't. I would also find it strange that Jane wouldn't look for clues on the body of one of his suspects. In the next Scene in the hospital he tells Lisbon Partridge is dead...almost like he saw for himself.

Then to end show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=772FU_fAjj4

They are sitting on a bench and Jane is transfixed by the guy feeding pigeons(a creepy person that looks like they are wearing a wig)...they are making the same noises. That has to connect above...not sure how though.

The more I review all of this the more I'm convinced they could spin RJ any way they want. I keep talking about pigeons, the is it acrophodia/agraphobia, the taser, is Partridge alive....overall they have set it up where almost all suspects have something in their drawer for you to dig through. Thomas being a name in the poem. It all seems like red herrings and I don't know where to go.

People keep posting details about the "Red John" and "My Blue Heaven" episodes.  Details include Jane and Red John having a show down in the park, Jane fleeing to South Africa, and Rigsby and Van Pelt having two children.  People are saying they saw it in a TV Guide article, but I can't find information even remotely close to that anywhere, let alone on TV Guide.  

Please comment with a link!!!

i Can't believe i accused Partridge!!

but why the hell is he casted in S06E08???????????????????

i can only think of one reason

Do you want to know who is red john?









You will find out nex episode



I've got ya

The one thing that really bugs me is that in S06E01 it's like Lisbon is getting pulled by someone below her. And the only one who was on the ground in that moment was Brett Partridge.

The reason why this bugs me is because Brett Partridge is supposed to be killed by Red John.

This could be the biggest mind trick by Red John in this season.

And one last thing, it's really mean by CBS to postpone the episode for a whole week..

I know that the writers said that the Fire and Brimstone episode showed a "darker" side to Jane but to me, it was out of character for Jane.  So many times during the series Jane has been planning or thinking something different to what it appears.  The reason it seems out of character is because did Jane REALLY expect Red John to walk into his trap?  Red John is always one step ahead and I think Jane knows this.  Therefore, Jane, knowing that Red John would see it as a trap wouldn't show up but in some way he knows this will flush out the real Red John.  This is why I favor Partridge as coming back from the dead.  

Does anybody really think the Bertrum, Smith or McCallister is Red John.  Those guys are too bumbling and slow.  Red John is calculated, smooth and precise.  I've wondered if Red John would even turn out to NOT even be someone on the list.  But if that were true it would not be fair on viewers who have been following the story line of this list for a long time.  Which again makes me favor the Partidge theory that others on this site have suggested.  They could easily make the Partidge character turn from what we know him as, that is, an immature childish person to then turning to his real self to show he's been putting on a good act for a long time.

Either way, I think the Red John and Patrick Jane showdown will actually turn out being on Red Johns terms.  Maybe RJ will kidnap Jane or something.  Obviously Jane will triumph in the end.  Overall, it seems a little obvious to me where the writers are trying to take us right now.  Away from whats really going on, to get our eyes off the real RJ and I think Jane has truly known who the real RJ is and is concocting a plan to flush him while letting RJ think that he's winning.

If it really is someone on that list, I would go with Partridge.  I think we'll see him in a different light once he is revealed.

IT'S VOTE TIME

Brett Partridge - Red
Sheriff Thomas McAllister - Green