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Brett Partridge

Brett Partridge
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I'm not sure who posted the stuff about the Agatha Christie book "And Then There Were None" but I posted that exact thing verbatim on another site.

In any case, as far as that book goes it's interesting that in an interview about the end of the Red John story arc with Bruno Heller he said: "Yeah, you can expect more deaths of suspects; I think I can say that without giving too much away. It’s not a Seven Little Indians thing, where one drops dead every week."

The reference to "Little Indians" rhyme might be significant because that is both the inspiration, concept, and original title of "And Then There Were None."

It was Christie's most financially successful mystery, and employs the red herring of a faked death. Wargreave "the hanging judge" fakes his own death only to reappear later as the killer.

Heller is a clever guy. And like most clever guys, like Red John, and Jane, they take pleasure in dropping little hints and seeing if their audience is smart enough to figure it out. Why mention the Little Indians unless it was a possible illusion.

Partridge is my suspect without a doubt. He knows exactly what to do to fake his own death and to trick other forensic investigators. It's also clear that he's working with someone, and that person might also be a forensic guy. For the record Wargreave also had help to fake his death in Christie's novel.
     

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Brett partridge could very well be the son of bret stiles also with the "tiger, tiger" notice that "BRETT" has 2 "TT" in it. also the meaning of the name brett is:

Brett derives from a Middle English surname meaning "a Breton",
referring to an inhabitant of Brittany. Brett is both a "masculine and a
feminine" given name.

I believe brett is well and alive, what better way to go off the radar so to speak then to stage his death? also if he did want Pj to believe he is dead he would need a witness hence Lisbon. Also notice that The pigeons had cages in that very room that was opened they didnt just fly in there by the looks of it that house is abanoned, now ask yourself why would someone bring in pigeons?? perhaps the blood used to draw on lisbons face was that of the pigeons?

Just my take on things

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Just some thoughts and questions I have. Firstly why was Brett at the house? What led him there ? The conversation jane and Lisbon have about him also strikes me. The part where talk about him being a good actor and Lisbon says he would have to be. Again I think everything has purpose even little things such as that . But the real question is was that just another red herring is Brett a red herring? None the less I think there is far more to him that will be revealed. Another observation the smiley painted on Lisbon is not a typical rj it resembles more of a clown . The eyes are upward rather than sideways .and the smile is different

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I am sure that red john is Brett Partridge,I am sure he faked his death to fool patrick and he will leave lisbon alive to spread that he is so dead it will be too obvious in the next episode if we won't see his dead body and also i believe that Bret Stiles is his father,,,you should notice that bret stiles and brett partridge have the same first name...why does Bruno Heller do that,is it a coincidence??no,,you should also notice that brett partridge with double(T) and bret stiles with single(T)like (queen elizabith II,so there must be queen Elizabith I)...

bret stiles is older than brett partridge by 25 years so that makes sense that he is his father.

The reason why red john(brett)knew about the old memory of Patrick because his father(stiles)saw that and gave him this information...Another surprise you would know that loraeille martinez wasn't killed...Red john always cut his victims throat,,so go back and see loraielli's body there was no blood on her throat only on the blanket that covered her..so to be clear,she fakes her death and went back to red john and after bob krikland went to the room of patrick and got the details that led red john to the list of 7 suspects(which was a plan from patrick to fool red john about his suspect as he knew that someone broke into his room so it was a set up and red john can't break into patrick's he as we all thought)) after that loraeille recorded the tape as i think and sent it to patrick)
Bruno Heller said before that red john is a father and a son so i think (bret and brett is the perfect mix :)


Anothe point that prove that Partridge is red john that we all know about the (tyger,tyger) poem which is a William Blake poem,,William Blake also has a picture of((a brace of partridge)) so know what do you think?? :) :)

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I still think it’s Partridge and that his death in the season premiere is a ruse.

It’s like the plot of the book “And Then There Were None” where all of the suspects supposedly died, only to have one of them turn out to be the killer, after they staged their own death.

Bruno Heller has stated that “it was very important that Partridge die at this point in the story.” And I think that is so that he would no longer be a suspect.

The way Partridge died, also does not seem in keeping with a Red John murder. He was found in a closet? No red smiley face to strike terror into the person that finds him before the body is discovered? That’s his classic M.O. and this doesn’t resonate with that.

 Also Partridge is partially alive when Lisbon finds him. Alive enough to quote William Blake. When is the last time Red John left someone half-dead?I think Partridge is Red John, and is working with someone, who helped him stage his own death to cast off suspicion. Bruno Heller stated of the final scene of episode 1 that “embedded in that scene is a big clue to the identity of Red John that will pay off big time later.”If you watch closely. The person who Jane is talking two is different from the person holding the phone, indicating that there are two people there. The person who paints the smiley face on Lisbon is not the real Red John. First, he paints it on her face (huh?), Second, he uses only two fingers instead of three (which both Jane and Partridge would know), finally, he paints the smiley face counter clockwise, not clockwise like in other Red John murders. That is the clue that I think Heller wants to give, but he distracts us with the red herring of the bloody blade.One other clue which may or may not be relevant is the title of the next episode Black Winged Red Bird which refers to a Scarlet Tanager. The Scarlet Tanager is a poem written by James Russell Lowell, a romantic poet like William Blake who wrote “The Tyger” which Red John often quotes as well as painted “A Brace of Partridge.”Far from casting off my suspicion, Partridges apparent death only seals it more for me that he’s Red John. Bruno Heller also said that we would be disappointed when we found out who Red John was, and most people would probably be disappointed if big bad Red John turned out to be Fangoria watching Brett Partridge.

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Bruno Heller did mention to look for clues towards the end of S6X02. The clue that seem to be visible.
- The Doves Or Pigeons, i noticed when lisbon opened that room there was also cages in that room, could the blood be that of the pigeons? could partridges death be faked, i dnt think his dead maybe brett partridge was just a fake identity.
- Tyger Tyger (theres something about this its been uttered before by victims when they where about to die)

Why would brett utter the words Tyger Tyger, he could have just identified his killer?
Red John has always killed his victims he has never left any victim half dead. you always see the smiley face drawn by Red John, before you see the victims body, also i dnt believe for one second that he was interupted thats why he could not complete killing his victim as it seemed to be a settup, anonymous call to tip of cbi? im sorry it just doesnt add up.

My money is still on "Brett Partridge".

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