This episode looks so similar to white collar's episode. Both Jane and Caffrey run to a spanish country, Then they both end up in US again...

Bruno Heller said that Xander Berkeley found out he was going to be Red John at "the last moment and he was thrilled" ... 

First question at the top of the page ... 

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/24/the-mentalist-red-john-interview/2/ 

"It's totally fair ... games over I won" - If that was the Sheriff's actual voice then he knew he was Red John the very first time that voice aired on the Mentalist years ago. How can you be on film doing Red John's voice and not know you are going to play Red John until "the last moment"! This means plain and simple .... that was not Xander Berkeley's voice or Bruno lied about when Xander found out and I see absolutely no reason to lie about that. If it was not his voice then Bruno Heller is not telling us one of a two things ...

1. Red John is not Sheriff McAllister
2. They had someone else do Red John's voice the whole time and Xander was lip sinking (If that is the case it's pretty poor planning but at least tell me who the actor is that does the voice out of curiousity ...

It just doesn't make sense. If Xander really did the voice then he knew for years and if he didn't do the voice then wtf who did? I really don't think this adds up ... Have there been any interviews with Bruno Heller about the Red John voice?

You think you guys got it bad? I unfortunately made a few bets on the Red John saga. . .

$1000 on Partridge as Red John
$1000 on Michael Kirkland being Rosalynd's Lover
$500 on Roy Tagliaferro being Ray Haffner's original name
$500 on all 7 suspects being alive at the start of episode 8.

However I did win a $1 bet that RJ was not gay. 

So I'm down $2999 . . ..


I don't blame Heller... I blame myself.

McAllister said he got the DNA and body from Partridge, who supposedly died in 6x01. Why would McAllister ask for a dead body and DNA before he even knew that Jane would bring them all together and plan his bomb attack. Plus why the need to kill Partridge if he's in The Blake Association. How could McAllister get the DNA and stuff 5 weeks after Partridge is killed when Jane hasn't even told him about the meeting unless partridge is still alive.

So either Partridge is alive and gave McAllister the body and DNA to fake his death if he'd pretend to be red john and kill Jane or partridge is dead and McAllister really was able to see into the future and kept a dead body in his trunk or a freezer for weeks.

One more thought:

Maybe Bruno Haha Heller, did the shitty "Sherrif is RJ" episode, to loosen the hype on RJ we all have been making for these years.

Besides, it is possible that Sherrif isn't real RJ, and was being pussy because he was "forced" to be fake RJ, and just didn't predict that Jane will beat him, just like with rock, paper, scisscors game. He couldn't have told Patrick that he is not RJ, because even if Patrick would spare him, real RJ would gutted him anyway.

Conclusion: Bruno "left" the opportunity that someone else (probably Partridge) is RJ, but for now, to bring the tension down he did another red herring.

It doesn't change the fact that its weak to copy "The Profiler".

I really hope that this isn't the end of RJ!I can live with McAllister being RJ - but I think Brett Stiles or Bret Partridge would be so much more of a better fit!Last weeks episode was just so disappointing. I wanted more flashbacks etc.Also, something that has been bothering me - what does 'roll tide' mean?

Hi all!

OK. The last scene.
After Jane disappears from camera, we can see a man (who some people think its Partridge) and a girl on a fun slide.

Now, the slide is DINOSAUR shaped.
Earlier, Jane was talking to lisbon that Birds are like MINI-DINOSAURS... so there is metaphor that the man beside the slide is a man who loves birds (pigeons), just like...

so I think to things:
At this slide it was red john.
He has a daughter.

Cheers!