so basically, partridge is red john. he is not dead. he is a forensic scientist and he is very smart. so he used another member of tyger tyger to fake his death and by actually killing them, fabricating evidence and making sure the autopsy confirmed it was him, he is able to hide his true existence. he has friends everywhere, and so this could be very possible..

 he has been laying low and obviously he wouldnt hand himself into jane, so he made mcallister pretend it was him, as jane kind of suspected him, when red john is actually still out there. 

if this were to all come together in the next episode, i will be very happy.

I just heard more than 20 times, and in my opinion, the RJ voice of McAllister and RJ voice on S2 end season are different...

My theory is that McAllister thinks that he's RJ because the real RJ tell him to be... For me there are 2 RJ's on the same level, or one up over McAllister...

It's an old thought from the same chapter on S02, in this scene I always thought like there're two RJ (same play of Scream 2 the movie).

What's more difficult to find than one serial killer???... two serial killers playing like one

Is it true there's another episode with Brett Partridge as Red John?


Did anyone else notice Partridge standing in front of a slide in the very last second of the episode?

You can still salvage this, Heller.  Here's how.

S5E2 ends with Jane drinking belladonna tea, so he can see his daughter again.

Everything since then has been Jane's hallucination.

It's the oldest trope in the book, and it's still better than what you gave us last night.

Sad thing is...

I care about these characters and will likely watch the rest of the season anyway. 

But will I ever let myself do this again, with any series?  No.

For all of you who think it is the actual Red John episode:

- In a post-episode interview Simon Baker and Bruno Heller both display the body language of 2 people saying a "Truth Lie," which is a lie that is partially ground in truth.

- When has an episode ever been leaked to French iTunes? When has it been leaked via source code? When has it leaked promotional pictures of Patrick killing the freaking guy himself?

- Why does it airing make it the real episode? Bruno Heller obviously wanted it to be an international trick when he leaked it to French iTunes

- Why in the penultimate few seconds does it cut away from Patrick Jane, to a woman with red hair and a child...

EASTER EGG: THE VERY LAST PERSON SHOWN IN THE EPISODE IS BRETT PARTRIDGE, IN FRONT OF A SLIDE.


Your move, dumbasses. I see its the same few people posting and complaining? Another part of the trick, or are you just the people who fell for it? Because every part of the trick was fun, until the whiner babies showed up in their droves.

red john should of had hired these lot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSnzOOtHfDo

You guys should be glad you only watched the episode where McAllister is Red John and nothing is explained. The actual explanations were BS.

Spoilers on BRETT PARTRIDGE: REDJOHN Episode! 4 YEARS- PATRICK KNEW WHO HE WAS AND DIDN'T KILL HIM!

In the Brett Partridge as Red John episode, Patrick learns Ryan Parks, someone from his past had DNA left on Carter Peaks. This is the information that Bosco gives Patrick on his dying bed. Patrick knew Ryan Parks from his past... he is familiar... it's Brett Partridge. Then Patrick begins a 4 year plan after Rebecca Anderson is murdered, to expose Red John's web of powerful friends. Patrick decides to expose them before he murdered Partridge?

THIS IS BULLSHIT! THIS IS WHY IT DIDN'T AIR!

Partridge realises Patrick MAY know who he is, so he disappears. There's actually a flashback to Patrick seeing Partridge walking past him with a dog in the season 3 finale, before Partridge sets up Timothy Carter to die. There's a momentary stare between them and I'm still wondering why Patrick doesn't finish him right there...
 
The list is made after 4 years of intentional games with Red John. People, who Patrick connected to Red John, were placed in. He DOESN'T use Rosalynd Harker because he doesn't want to tip off Red John that he already knew him. Even when he makes the list he says its a list of people he met AFTER his wife was killed.

- Bret Stiles had to make it onto the list- he knew Ryan Parks aka RJ

- Ray Haffner - Patrick recognises he is the man that shoots the copycats

- Gale Bertram - Calls Patrick "Boy Wonder," so he must have been told about Patrick, by Ryan Parks who knew Patrick when he was younger. And he was involved in the Timothy Carter plan of Red John.

- Sheriff Thomas McAllister - Asks if Patrick is a psychic repetitively on meeting.

- Reede Smith - Friend in the FBI.

- Robert Kirkland - Patrick thought he murdered Jason Lennon, until he finds out he has a twin


By the end of episode 7:

 Kirkland is dead. Smith is bad, Bertram is RJ, and McAllister is dead.

By the end of episode 8:

Robert is alive and LURKING in flashback of Patrick's Con, (Michael was dead)... Smith is a hero... Bertram is a HERRROOOO .... McAllister is a hero... Haffner is killed by Lorelei Martins... Bret Stiles gets tortured by Robert Kirkland... Patrick gets his revenge on Ryan Parks aka Brett Partridge aka Serial Killer Red John.


The episode wasn't on TV.