is this moment when he think through Timothy Carter 'twin' fraud!?
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I submitted this theory before but I made some updates lately...
For me the main question is: Has Heller known who RJ for the last 3 years or is he only trying now to find a "good" RJ that will not disappoint us too much?
In the second case there is not much we can guess and we can only wait. And hope that the RJ plot will be at least interesting if not consequent with all that happened until now...
In the first case, where the writer planned a smart plot and carefully planted hints around the whole five seasons, we can try to find who RJ is by analyzing this hints. I strongly hope that this is the case and Heller is not playing with the plot anymore!
In case Heller did everything correctly, I am pretty sure that he himself wrote the main RJ story line without leaving the job to other screenwriters. My theory is that we should filter the seven suspects against the episodes written by Heller.
Here is the list of Heller's related episodes (Bruno Heller wrote only 17 episodes):
"Pilot": introduced Brett Partridge
"Red Hair and Silver Tape": introduced Sheriff Thomas McAllister
"Red John's Friends"
"Carnelian, Inc."
"Red John's Footsteps"
"Redemption"
"Black Gold and Red Blood"
"Code Red"
"Red Sky in the Morning"
"Red Sky at Night": introduced Gale Bertram
"Red Moon"
"Strawberries and Cream"
"Scarlet Ribbons"
"Cheap Burgundy"
"The Crimson Hat"
"The Crimson Ticket": introduced Reede Smith.
"Red John's Rules"
Surprise surprise!
Bret Stiles, Ray Haffner, Bob Kirkland were introduced in episodes not written and not directed by Heller! I really think we can exclude them because of this fact and related lesser importance. Why would RJ be presented to the audience by a second level author? The filler episodes are normally the one left to other screenwriters.
Since I really do not believe he would let the important task to introduce to us RED JOHN to somebody else... I will reduce the original seven persons list to these four:
Brett Partridge
Sheriff Thomas McAllister
Gale Bertram
Reede Smith
Let's talk about Reed Smith: he was introduced just a few episodes ago... there is no way he waited all these seasons to show us Red John. Furthermore, 2 years ago, Heller told us that in season 3 we got a *glimpse* at Red John. Reed Smith can be officially removed since he joined the show later.
We now have these suspects, and I strongly believe Red John is one of them (not seven suspects anykore but THREE):
Brett Partridge
Sheriff Thomas McAllister
Gale Bertram
Since McAllister has been a very minor character, and in my opinion Patridge was RJ in the first season and then was abandoned because he was too obvious... I would say that Heller's Red John is GALE BETRAM.
This supports many other good theories about him, mostly related to the Season 3 finale. The O'Laughling case, the hotel trick, the rope, the encounter with Timothy Carter happening in the Mall after Betram leaves and so on.
Hello everyone. I would like to present my final theory
before new season starts. This is the complete version with some additional
dots connected. I have spent hours and hours writing this while watching all
related episodes again. So, votes and comments are welcome. Please don’t hesitate
to address any mistakes if I have missed something.
Gale Bertram, everyone knows him as the bold guy who is
sensitive about media. If there is a matter, first thing he cares is the media,
and public relations. Well, people can change their faces, identities, or act
different; but habits, habits never change.
Dear mister Jane,
I do not like to be
slandered in the media…
Red John killed Patrick Jane’s family, James Panzer, the show
presenter and abducted Kristina Frye, due to media. It is a habit, he cares
about media. Gale Bertram also cares about media. Whatever he decides on, media
is an important part if his decision process. It is a personal habit, media is
important to him. You might think that he cares about media because he is the
CBI boss. Well, Hightower, Luther, and clearly Virgil Minelli, did not care
about media.
Surely Bertram does not fit into Rosalind’s description, but
hey, of course he does not. When Red John victim appeared at season 1 finale,
which was a case prepared specifically for Jane by RJ, he used a mailbox for
the company to draw the smiling face in air. And the same mailbox was on his
business card Rosalind found. It is hard to believe that he could use the same
mailbox for both murder and business. No, it was the plan to lure Jane to
Rosalind first, and then to the house. Nice mislead. Who would think of Bertram
after the description? Yet RJ does not leave witnesses behind, and Rosalind is
still alive. Also, RJ visited Rosalind later and put the morgue attendant’s
dead body in her wardrobe, and Rosalind was there when CBI and FBI found it.
Not a word from her, come on. She is still playing the stupid.
And then, Basco and team is attacked by Rebecca. What was
wrong with Carter Peak’s body, we don’t know. But it was surely not the DNA
samples, because Rebecca was quite surprised when heard about capturing DNA
samples. There was something else about the body, and might be revealed later.
New boss is Hightower. At this point, remember that Bertram
is Hightower’s boss. So Bertram chose Hightower. Also later, Todd Johnson was
burned and Hightower was framed. Todd was the person who had killed Rance
Howard, ex-boyfriend of Hightower. What a coincidence ha? Appoint anyone else
but Hightower, and you can’t frame that person with motive. As if Todd Johnson
incident was planned.
Meanwhile, RJ is busy reciting the William Blake poem to
Jane, just like bertram will be reciting another one to Lisbon and La Roche later.
In first episode of season 3 there is a case in which
Bertram is the boss. He immediately meets Jane, calling him the boy wonder. In
fact, he was the boy wonder in carnivals when he was working with his father.
On a welcoming sign, it used to write so.
And here we are, the
shining hour of Red John, season 3 finale. Season 3 finale is like a chain of events. Brake one and the whole
thing collapses. This is very important. And when it comes to a Jane vs. RJ
game, there are no coincidences.
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To understand season 3
finale better, we first visit season 4 episode 1. As I go step by step, you
will clearly see how everything was planned and triggered by Red John, Gale
Bertram.
1) Ron Deutsch, the security guy who removed the gun and
cell phone from Timothy Carter's body, is found dead.
Why the hell does a security guy take them?
Would a random security guy do that? No. A random guy would protect the
evidence and wait for cops. He was asked
to remove them. And in the end, he was killed to make sure he tells
nothing.
The question here is: Was he planted there
before the meeting to remove the stuff, or was he a regular guy working there
and when it was understood that meeting was to be held at mall, a guy of RJ
told him to remove the stuff in exchange of huge money.
I think he was a regular guy and maybe they
offered him a million dollars. This way he accepted it. It is irrelevant. What
matters is, he was told to remove evidence.
Now let's finally go to season 3 finale.
2) It is only a moment between Timothy Carter's death and
security guy's removing gun and cell phone. This can only mean one thing. The
deal was made before Timothy Carter died, possibly when Jane and Bertram
arrived at mall, or within few minutes after that. Security guy was planted
before meeting or deal made after meeting, doesn't matter.
This
only means one thing. RJ knew that Timothy would die.
How does he know that? If Jane had never met
Timothy, Timothy would just drink his coffee, read the newspaper and leave
the mall.
So we look at the reason why Jane and Timothy
met.
3) Jane spotted Timothy because he made the phone call
with Lisbon.
Why? Because Craig O'Laughlin was dead and
Lisbon used his phone to call last dialed number.
So, if Craig O'Laughlin was not dead and
killed Hightower, Lisbon and Van Pelt, Jane would never spot Timothy and he
would not die. This means that O'Laughlin had to die
that day.
4) Craig O'Laughlin died because Jane realised that the
real mole was O'Laughlin, not Bertram.
Bertram: You just sound like a man who has pushed
himself too hard, who has reached the end of his rope.
This was the reason why Jane understood that the
mole was O'Laughlin. Without this sentence, Timothy would walk again.
Now, Timothy was there to die, but I doubt he
was aware of it. But the plan of RJ was that Timothy would go to mall, talk to
Patrick Jane, and Jane would kill him. And only one thing would make this come
true, that Jane realizes that the mole is not Bertram but O'Laughlin. And without this sentence, it would never
be possible.
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Let’s add an additional
information here. Bertram asks “Just who
exactly is trying to kill her anyhow? He starts the conversation that leads to
the rope sentence. And he says “You
tell me!” See how elegantly and naturally it goes? It’s amazing.
I have always thought that there were Red John
related people in CBI. Now let me show you why.
The assassin takes fire
stairs, goes to Bertram's room, puts rope and stuff on the bed and just waits.
And when Cho and Rigsby arrives, she is not surprised at all. She just smiles
and jumps to death. How do you do that, if you weren't expecting it?
This means that RJ knew it was a trap. Why?
First reason: Timothy
Carter told Jane "When O'laughlin told me about your trap..."
Second reason: Because
O'Laughlin was the mole and and Bertram is Red John. Two different hotel
numbers coming to RJ, meaning it was a trap. That is how he figured it
out.
Lisbon told him a
different room number. The moment O'laughlin told him about it, he knew. When
Jane told Bertram that Hightower wants to make a deal, Bertram said OK and
right after Jane left, he picked up his phone and called someone. Whom did he
call? Timothy Carter. Bertram arranged Timothy character and during the mall he
left just after Jane started to talk about killing Todd Johnson. It is a very
important topic, about a mole in CBI, and Bertram simply leaves the scene,
nonsense. I mean, Jane is saying there that the Red John mole was actually
O'Laughlin, and instead of hearing Jane, Gale Bertram leaves. A non-Red John CBI director would never
ever do that. Also, remember he asks “Just
who exactly is trying to kill her anyhow? Well, he just got the answer to
his question. Why leave?
So RJ sent an assassin
with rope, and Bertram used a sentence with "reaching end of rope".
And this way everything happened according to RJ's plan.
One could say, OK, Timothy might be there
just in case anything goes wrong. Well, how did RJ know that they were going to
meet at the mall? There is no possibility that such a thing happens before Jane
and Bertram left CBI. No one knew where the meeting was. They might have
followed Jane and Bertram to mall. But then, how do you prepare Timothy and
security guy? Does the tail of Jane always carry an extra Timothy with him in
such cases? No one knew about the meeting. It is not random, it is a chain of
events planned right after Jane told Betram.
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Now I want to tell another reason why Timothy
was there to talk to Jane and die. It was a historical meeting, and hence
planned before. It was very important for RJ, so the content of the chat must
be important too. RJ can't just tell him to go there and improvise. Whatever
Timothy says, it must be RJ's words. So either:
A) RJ and Timothy
practiced it before. RJ told Timothy what he should say and also how Patrick's
wife and child smelled.
B) RJ was there, listening, telling Timothy what
to say through a bug in his ear. This can also explain why Timothy answers
Patrick's questions with 2 second delay and stopping here and there. If this is
the case, Bertram could be directing Timothy his speech.
Either
case, this was a carefully planned meeting by RJ.
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With Bertram's key role in this episode, RJ
can’t be anybody except Bertram. And look where Bertram looks at while he was
leaving, Timothy.
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At the end of the season
4, Lorelei was captured by CBI and FBI. And season 5 start is about who keeps
Lorelei. Surely Bertram would want Lorelei not to talk, and as a part of
agreement, Bertram says “until I negotiate with feds, you cannot talk to her,
that’s the deal!” Surely, if Bertram wanted Jane to talk to Lorelei, he would
either take this part of deal out or ignore Jane talking to Lorelei, just as he
ignored many things before. But no. And FBI takes Lorelei with an order before
Jane can make her sing like a bird.
Using FBI for his
interests is another skill of Red John. Remember the flashback, in which Alexa
Schutz calls Virgil Minelli to ask for updates on Red John case, by Robert
Kirkland’s request. Or using FBI to help Lorelei escape. Well, if Bertram does
these using his power, clearly this is as good as saying “I am Red John”.
Instead, he uses his guys in FBI for dirty work. This way, things seem like a
competition between two bureaus, way better.
This call from Alexa under
Kirkland’s request tells us that Kirkland is in the Red John case for years.
The question is this: On which side is Kirkland? He is either after Red John
for personal revenge, or he works for Red John to stay updated on Jane’s
progress in the case. He is not Red John, because when Jane and Kirkland shook
hands, Lorelei was in Jail. And guess where the camera points at the last frame
with that intense music, Gale Bertram’s picture on the wall.
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When Lorelei is escaped
with the help of Jane, we still do not know Kirkland’s position. He seems to be
very eager to catch Lorelei. Is he doing that to make sure Lorelei dies before
they catch her, or to get all the information ASAP to hunt RJ.
5x16 tells us more things about this, a lot more. First,
Bertram allows Kirkland to use CBI’s resources to catch Lorelei. What is
Bertram’s catch? Lorelei of course. Lorelei will soon be after him, and he
should prevent that situation. Bertram is also interested in Jane’s insights,
which is something he never did before. Bertram’s special interest in Lorelei
is obvious, clear as the sky. Just after Lisbon leaves the room, Kirkland comes
from behind. Look at Bertram’s look, quite interesting. Dedicated to destroy
Lorelei.
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Bertram asks Kirkland “What do you think?”
Kirkland: You work with her, you’d know better
Kirkland: But can we
trust her?
Bertram: Can we trust anyone.
Wow! They are a team, how nice! Kirkland says we. Their aim is the same, they both
want Lorelei badly.
Now look at their positions in this scene. Kirkland has more
of an advisory role, while Bertram has more of the leader role. This is worth
mentioning.
When Jason Lennon is in ambulance, Kirkland removes Jane
immediately. This suggests only one thing: Whatever
Jason knows, Jane should not know
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And there we are, 5x18. Kirkland’s intentions are revealed
completely. I am talking about the scene in which Kirkland murdered Jason
Lennon of course.
Robert Kirkland and Jason
Lennon chat:
RK:
You are one tough SOB Jason Lennon. You really are.
JL:
Where am I? What happened?
RK:
You are in Sacramento, you got shot. Do you remember that?
JL:
Yes I do. Lorelei Martins.
RK:
Correct, very good. Good, your mind is clear. Now listen, I have a question for
you Jason, look at me. Look close. You recognise me? You ever seen me before?
JL: No.
RK:
Are you sure? It's important.
JL:
Yes. I'm sure.
RK:
It's good to know. Thanks.
JL:
Who are you?
RK:
I'm a friend. Let's face facts Jason. If you recover, and live, you'll spend
life in prison for murder at the play thing of monsters. I just hope, that if I
am ever in your shoes, I have a friend close enough to do this for me.
JL:
Wait.
RK:
Don't be scared, this'll be quick, with very little pain. It is okay, it’s all
right. I am here for you, I won't leave you.
Does Kirkland ask
Jason anything about Red John’s identity? NO
Does Kirkland ask
anything related to Red John case? NO
So, Kirkland is not
after Red John, 100%.
Let’s also prove that Kirkland is on Red John’s side.
He considers himself
as a friend of Jason. A close friend. And he kills Jason because otherwise
Jason will spend rest of his life in prison. What is more, he might talk. He
knows who Red John is, and he is weak as Lorelei had told Jane.
Now, Kirkland is accomplice of Red John, and he has the same
interests with Bertram. Remember Bertram’s key role in season 3 finale now, how
he made all the Timothy game possible, contributed in every single possible
way.
In the next episode, Kirkland orders his fellas to search Jane’s
room and take pictures. He didn’t do that to catch Red John, I just proved
that. He is with Red John. So why do they need Jane’s data? Well, we know from
last episode that Lorelei was killed and just before that, she made a video for
RJ, in which she told about her telling RJ about shaking hands. So RJ made a
list, but how close is Jane? Does he have any proof to feel closer to one of 7
subjects? Or are they all equally possible? They need to know that. So,
Kirkland studies Jane’s data to know if Jane is close or very close.
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Now, you might say that Kirkland can be RJ and Bertram can
be accomplice. Well, no. As I mentioned earlier, Kirkland shook Jane’s hand
when Lorelei was in prison. She did not know. Even if Kirkland had told her
that he shook Jane’s hand, still, the time in-between is so little that they
did not even have the chance to become friends. Jane shook RJ’s hand a longer
time ago, and despite their similarities, they did not become friends. Bertram
suits perfectly, Kirkland not.
The following two frames are from season 3 finale, when Jane and the team were discussing about the trap. This guy suddenly enters the frame, and team waits for him to go away. Looks like Kirkland doesn't he?
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Last thing, remember "He is mar/man" writing on the wall. That guy was telling Jane that he knew someone who knew Red John. Last letter on the wall is a definite "n", not "r", so it says "He is man..."
Well, whose name starts with man? Manchester. The Judge Manchester. We all know whose friend he is, Gale Bertram's.
Thank you for reading
BeMyGuest1201
if you hold your tongue and say red john it sounds like Bertram (((((:
Why does everyone think that Rosalind's description is true? Red John could have easily manipulated her to give a wrong description or she could be a disciple of Red John. Everyone thinks that she is innocent just because she is blind!!
I don't think that we should eliminate suspects just because of their height, hair or voice. How would we even know that it was RJ that came to save Jane at the season 2 finale? It could have been any of his disciples including Timothy Carter.
If Bertram was Red John then two things bother me.
1. Why didn't she kill Lorelei when she was at the CBI ? He would have had time and he couldn't risk her talking.
2. Would he have the time to be Red John ? I mean isn't someone going to notice the CBI director keeps going missing ? Red John was waiting around on a farm in season 1 finale and in the 4th finale he must have been somewhere alone to be speaking to Jane down the phone.
Cheers
Look, I know this may sound a little odd. Given the fact that Red John is somewhat lanky and has a very calming voice (season 2 finale), and we know that Gale is nowhere close to that; but hear me out.
Let's start with the season 3 finale. The team was investigating the Todd Johnson murder so that they would figure out the mole. Who were the suspects? La Roche, Adilles, Bertram, the CBI reporter and Craig O'laughlin. I don't know if there were others but the fact is that of the 7 RJ suspects, Gale Bertram is the only one who's on both lists. Sure, Craig was the guilty one but that doesn't mean Gale was entirely innocent.
How would you explain RJ foiling what seemed like a perfect plan? What Jane failed to consider in his plan is that the people connected to RJ could be more than one. Imagine this for a minute. Craig receives a tip that Hightower was in room 505, then tells his "boss" (Gale/RJ) about it; On the other hand, Gale will be like 'Hey, but I thought she was in room 605'. I mean, won't Gale know that something's up? Come to think of it, How else would Red John know what Jane was planning?
Which brings me to the mall incident. Timothy Carter (another disciple of RJ) was there purposely to meet Jane - you know, because Red John kindly asked him to. How many people were supposed to know that Jane was meeting Bertram in the mall?Well, it was Lisbon's team and Bertram. So how did Red John know about the meeting? Maybe I'm missing something here but Jane has a good reason to suspect Gale Bertram.
Gale is also kind of fishy, he works closely with Bob Kirkland regarding the PJ/RJ situation and we know that Kirkland isn't exactly the nicest of guys. Then again, he isn't very good at poker and Jane has tricked him quite easily and Red John doesn't seem to be the type that would be tricked a few times.
