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Grace Van Pelt

Grace Van Pelt
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Partridge is very dead. The dude has like 6 lines and people say hes a good actor? Stop. Partridge worked for tiger tiger fixing crime scenes to their liking . Its his job to make crime scenes look like red johns work. Thats how bertram knew him and was surprised he was dead. Red john killed him but is using jane to get the rest of tiger tiger. He literally died in front of lisbon.

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Tiger tiger is a corrupt group that has been using red john as a scapegoat for their wrongdoings for years . They used partridge as there crime scene man to set the killings up to make it look like Rj. Rj killed him first! Rj is helping jane take down tiger tiger. Jans is playing by red johns rules !!!! This will then lead jane to rj. Lorelie may be alive . Van pelt and styles have a story to tell along with kristina frye . Minelli is the head of tiger tiger . Classic bad guy. The message board has finally cracked the code . Remember haffner on the phone saying "there ways to make women keep their mouths shut" . Tiger tiger is the opposite of cbi. Fearful symmetry. They do dirty jobs for people and coverup scandals . The bad guys.

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Ok, firstly is it just me or does RJ not really fit a career serial killer profile? Using friends and proxies (sure, Manson, noted) but as far as your general SK type, I'm really struggling. I do have memory issues so I admit keeping it all straight in my head is difficult, but what serial killer leaves question marks over killings when he has such a defined signature. If anyone wants to breakdown timelines and methods, I wouldn't complain :)
Secondly, some of the theories on here are amazing. I secretly wonder if BH had the next ep pulled deliberately coz he needed to re-do some scenes based on inconsistencies you guys have theorized.

Also, to those that keep calling people names and abusing them for their thoughts, I hope the reveal helps validate you...seeing as you take it so seriously!

Me, I'm just enjoying the ride :)

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Tiger tiger is a corrupt group that has been using red john as a scapegoat for their wrongdoings for years . They used partridge as there crime scene man to set the killings up. Rj killed him first! Rj is helping jane take down tiger tiger. Jans is playing by red johns rules !!!! This will then lead jane to rj. Lorelie may be alive . Van pelt and styles have a story to tell along with kristina frye . Minelli is the head of tiger tiger . Classic bad guy. The message board has finally cracked the code . Remember haffner on the phone saying "there ways to make women keep their mouths shut" . Tiger tiger is the opposite of cbi. Fearful symmetry. They do dirty jobs for people and coverup scandals . The bad guys.

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I have a question . Remember the guy that was set aflame in cbi ? He had info to tell jane about red john and then the conflagration burst onto the scene. Always wanted to use that word. Anyway, who did that? Did we ever find out ? I have two points and please comment on your views . Did tiger tiger do it? Why on earth would they chose the method of death by combustion in their headquarters? And it seemed the only person eerily questioned was van pelt..why? I feel like i may of missed something.
My other point is it obviously was red john. Usually rj followers take a pill or some
Type of poison results in there demise. How did they make him burst into flames ? Why on earth did they have to do it right then? There has never been a single rj follower that has ever really talked to cops. So my question is why all around ?

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Now that i have seem the previews its apparent that nobody on the list is red john. Like i said earlier , the list is a form of jane playing by red johns rules. Rj is throwing jane a bone about the currupt tiger tiger crew. Patrick knows rj isnt part of them. Pj is playing a dangerous chess game barking up the wrong tree and shaking the branches until all the tiger tiger crew falls out. This will force rj to think he/she is in the clear and thats when pj will have a checkmate . Something is to be said about the lorelie tape. Is she alive ? Maybe . There has to be a reason rj knew the list and that is the only logical explanation. She isnt the typical rj follower . Shes hot. Banged pj. And seems stronger than the other followers who were so weak minded . Van pelt may be rjs daughter or she could just be a weird character . She could also of been a man at one point. I mean why hire a broad shoulders deep voiced red haired woman for the part ? The end is near and i cant wait ! The people
On the list are all but dead and its gamete .

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People will 3 names are always the bad guy. I have been vigilant in my search for rj and sunday cant come soon enough. What if there is no red john and just a corrupt cop organization ? I would hate that but what better way for currupt cops to make people not suspicious of them than too make up a serial killer ?

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