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Grace Van Pelt

Grace Van Pelt
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Ok now that everyone is caught up can we now start the real discussions about this fake list! Lol. But seriously nobody on the list is the red john. The list is a ploy to force red johns hand. Please no more partridge talk, jane looked him dead in the eye and if partridge knew what was going on we could tell. Styles knows who rj is. Could it be his son? Maybe his daughter ? The buggest question i have it how did rj find out about the gps trackers? I believe there is only about 3 people who knew about that. Also i believe the lorelie tape was made by jane . I know people are gonna doubt me cuz i think outside the box . Think about it: jane had two suspect list. One kirkland stole . The other he made lorelie recite on tape . He dis this to see how certain people acted. Jane knows everyone in that house is not rj . But he knows rj wants them all dead . Chess . Make a move so that your opponent thinks they have you and just when they think that check mate. Red john is not one of the 7 suspects. Are there any free thinkers whi feel the same ?

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Is there anyone out there that thinks the list is a fake ? It seems like everyone is falling for the same trick...

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Ok i have a few points here .
1. The list is fake. The mere fact that bruno heller is telling us what to think and offering spoilers is a major point. Why would a guy give away any info about his creation as its about to end? I believe the list is the key to fishing out rj but it is a ploy. The whole reason and selling point of the season is the list so that viewers know pj will catch rj finally. I truly believe heller is trolling and getting people focused on the list to hype people up no way he would ever reveal the truth , think about how many twist this show has u think he would lessen that by giving us hints?
2 . I think its crazy people say rj is OBVIOUSLY a man. Really? I have always felt rj had a feminine feel to him/her. Anyone else? I mean the voice feminine. The infatuation with patrick bordering homo erotic is obvi feminine. Another clue is the taser. Tasers are blatantly feminine ! What serial killer uses a stun gun? Think outside the box people this show is all about outside the box.
3 . The list is janes check mate. Jane knows the list is fake and by rj figuring out the list is key. Its a trick not magic. Pj knew lisbon would tell van pelt about the list and track the suspects . Pj would never put lisbon in jarms way right ? He knows rj cant kill her cuz van pelt likes her . Looks up to her. Just think about the show and all shows and realize the creators would never spill the beans. Dont believe the spoilers there all misdirection !!

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Quote TV Guide:

"When Jane finally meets Red John, he is unaccompanied by CBI... The moment of death itself, with Jane straddling Red John and looking into the eyes of his prey, is one of shocking intimacy."

We're in for one weird scene... I bet you guys wish Red John was Van Pelt now. 

Or you could press red if you're into that kind of thing...

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William blake was a believer in gnosticism. You should read up on it cuz red john is the demiurge...... This is also the perspective of most of the works of Blake: his Book of Urizen, for example, describes a god figure that separates himself from his own creator in order to achieve absolute power over a small collection of secondary beings. This power is enforced by rigid laws of worship and extreme punishment for any who question his authority. The Demiurge and Urizen exist in the multi-verse of His Dark Materials as the false creator, The Authority, and his regent Metatron.

The demiurge is both sexis just like van pelt and i knowni sound crazy but we will see soon:)

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The biggest evidence beside the obvious mole aspect is the fact that Rj didnt kill lisbon. On top of that ever wonder why Rj didnt kill lisbon all along? I mean he killed a memory jane had from childhood and not lisbon? The only explanation is that red john is van pelt and van pelt loves lisbon. I know haffner is another way to go about this specific theory but he doesnt have the balls to be red john lol we all know that

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I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. She started the same day jane did. Shook his hand and later called him a sad godless man. She may be red johns daughter or he had a sex change since he is a little crazy. Grace had dated two killers thus far. Bad luck? She is savvy with computers and red john always hacks only her computer! The show seems to show her facial expression more than others and we know how important they are in this show. Especially the time jane is crying and she is smiling. She is into the occult and doesnt believe in jane. We know nothing of her past and if you notice there is something bothering her this season. You can read it on her face when she meets with styles. When rigsby says i love u she replies " i know". Van pelt red john. Red hair . Access to jane and cbi. I also have a hunch that jane knows she is red john and made the list to trick her. Telling lisbon knowing well she would tell van pelt. He is playing chess and winning. Red john wants to take out the tiger tiger people thus why patrick is using them to make the TIGRESS come out of her den and reveal herself. Its a twist and this show is known for them. Watch episode one season 1 and tell me what you think? I also have a theory styles is both her and janes father and why patrick tells styles " i am not your boy".

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