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I don't get it;
In the list Jane gave to Abbott there are several names that certainly are accomplishes to Red John, but they aren't any sort of cops.

BA is insisted of people within Law Enforcement, so why the hell Jane could include those names?
(ex.Timothy Carted, Rosalind Harker, Jason Lennon etc)
I don't know what to think anymore.And Abbott says: "We've already caught them"

How could they catch them if they aren't in Law Enforcement?And yes, Jason Lennon and Timothy Carter are dead, but Rosalind?How they came up with catching her?And she wouldn't have a tattoo because she isn't in Law Enforcement.I don't know....The Mentalist drowned into its own plot...

Gotta be a big twist or else I see the show canceled very soon and I'm not even a psychic like McAllister.....

And we are too brainwashed by the whole "BA" thing.I've always supposed and wanted to believe that Red John is a person, one extra gifted and mentally twisted man.Not just a nickname and behind thousands of people thinking and acting for him.

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Dear Family and Friends:
Patrick is in the hospital in a coma from the injuries he suffered from the explosion.Charlotte and I have visited Patrick while in his unconscious state.  We told himthat he will wake up soon, to continue his hunt for Red John.
Only 3 of the Red John suspects escaped the explosion: Stiles, Haffner andBertram.  McAllister was killed in the blast.  Patrick dreamed that he had killedRed John (McAllister).  The watchband that Patrick wore represented the wrist bandthat he wears in the hospital.
Please send your thoughts and Prayers, so Patrick can soon recover.

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I'd like to disagree with the guy that stated: "You are disappointed about the RJ reveal but you weren't disappointed from the impossible tricks that Jane came up to catch the killers"

This show is meant to be 100% real, with no signs of supernatural staff or unrealistic things to happen.I can't recall a single case where Jane's trick was impossible to do or think.Correct me if I'm wrong.

And then, from all the things we've watched over the 5 seasons and we were truly impressed by the intelligence and creativity of Patrick Jane, then we watch episode 6x08.Some might say it was a good episode.(Not me)
This episode was way off the show's standards.

Red John and Patrick Jane, have a lot in common.
They both love classical music and tea.
They both are weak/don't know things about physical fight.(remember that RJ uses his knife, stunt guns and other staff to bring down his victims)
They both have ultimate mental skills.
They both are more clever than the average mind.
They both have hypnotism skills.

And then Red John is portrayed as a common psycho, sexual perverted man, with no special intelligence, that he depended on others to think and act for him, a man that runs  a marathon with a bullet inside him, a man that makes fun with the "Red John" symbolism, (he has a rough voice and he fakes the RJ one, smiley face-those didn't mean a thing eventually.)

I believed in something deep behind RJ's behavior.I supposed that he painted the smiley risking to get caught for a reason.I believed that his voice was his natural, high pitched, calm, spooky voice.
When Rebecca stated that RJ has a plan of "love and enlightenment" I certainly didn't expect this.(A cop secret organization that turned out to be not that secret eventually.)

I expected a 20 minute or so conversation between the two basic characters of the show, flashbacks, a connection between them, answers to our questions.

In any case, you might wanna watch again the end of season 3.
85 epic minutes.Revelations, action etc etc.
And then watch 6x08.
-15 minutes to arrange the meeting between Bertram and Patrick Jane
-15 minutes FBI chasing PJ.
-2 minutes conversation between McAllister and Patrick Jane.(nothing substantial)
-15 minutes of Jane chasing McAllister.

Red John IS vulnerable.But I obviously didn't see that coming.For me, catching Red John must have been an amazing twist that Jane made so he was able to be two steps ahead of RJ and catch him in the end.

And even if I somehow get over the way RJ died, I will never get over the fact that they didn't explain a damn thing.

Hope my thoughts are common with yours, let me know what you think about all those thing I've written in the comment section.
 

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I re-watched episode 4x07, "Blinking Red Light", and I realized something amazing.

Jane cooperates with Red John in order to bring down a serial killer of teenage girls, because he had no clues connecting him with the murders.

Jane could make Panzer (the killer) a bait to Red John, and catch him in the act.
He didn't though.He preferred RJ to kill him just to get rid of him.

Here is my point: Jane knows McAllister isn't RJ, he cooperates with RJ in order to reveal the secret organization within Law Enforcement.(Blake Association)

-That's why RJ tells the poem "Tyger Tyger" to Jane at the season 2 finale.
-That's why RJ leads Jane to Kira Tinsley and the three-dot tattoo.
-That's why McAllister doesn't really know how RJ got the list and says "I'm psychic"

Red John was against this organization, probably because they copied his work,
or somehow irritated him.

No doubt there is a strong bond within RJ and Visualize.Maybe Stiles discovered the secret organization, and he tried to get advantage of it, by getting away with murders, no pay taxes and other criminal acts.It's not a coincidence that when Jane learned about the tattoo, the same time FBI started to chase Stiles, after all these years.They may suspected that Visualize is behind the reveal of the tattoo.(Kira Tinsley)

And maybe that's why Partridge died.(or faked his death, it doesn't matter).
He was either about to expose the bond between Visualize and the BA or he was just RJ that wanted to mislead Jane.

In conclusion, Patrick Jane and Red John are playing a game that both are forced to play.
-Jane wants revenge,
-Red John tries to avoid the identification.

So, in this game there are times where both of the players need to act together in order to continue the game.And that also explains why Red John wants to be friend with Patrick.

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I think the end of Red John was just irrelevant, firstly from what fans
were expecting and secondly from the clues they provided over the
years.


I also believe that Bruno Heller just wanted Red John to be a character that
no one could ever explain how he would be RJ.So the clues don't add up,
therefore there will be no flashbacks.
In addition, to me it seems that
Jane tries to forget everything about RJ and what happened the previous
10 years.So another clue that there will be no flashbacks (except of a
possible RJ return.)


Is Red John really dead?Is McAllister Red John?Is 6x08 the last Red John episode we will ever have the chance to watch?Will they ignore the fact that we need answers/flashbacks etc.?Certainly hope not.

I'm just clueless about a possible RJ return, so I'm not that optimistic.



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All shows run re-runs during the Christmas break. What's new this year is that several CBS shows have chosen to do mid-season "crisis" or re-boots or re-directs of their shows (Elementary, Person of Interest, etc.). Normally the shows simply run episodes from the previous or current season. I agree that it is interesting that S5E2 was chosen. Remember that this show centers on Jane's sub-conscience, through the appearance of his daughter, telling him to move on from RJ. We can take this two ways: BH telling us to move on or the theory that has already been out here, that Jane is in the hospital because of the explosion. It doesn't make sense that he has been hallucinating since S5E2, it makes more sense that he is in the hospital as a result of the explosion. I think that we are getting more red herrings and BH is running a con on the viewers. I still haven’t made up my mind if RJ is dead and there will be a new underlying mystery or if Jane is in a coma. Both are the strongest theories currently. .

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Of all the reruns to air tonight, they choose the one where he hallucinates his daughter, and drinks the tea at the end of the episode to see her again. 

I had once posted that everything since this episode was a dream, and the real Red John reveal was yet to come. 

Playing this one makes me think they're hinting at that. 

Hope...

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