Make sure to watch this scene 100 times before you watch episode 8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZvmwU1ufg
It will make you almost explode with excitement.
And btw RJ is indeed Ray Haffner.
Make sure to watch this scene 100 times before you watch episode 8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZvmwU1ufg
It will make you almost explode with excitement.
And btw RJ is indeed Ray Haffner.
My reason for posting is to ask a question: I don't understand the layout of Jane's house. He enters through the front door, goes upstairs to look at the bedroom with the smiley face and then leaves through a back door, crosses a courtyard and then enters a second building. The second building is also his because it has his safe.
Lisbon pulls up in front of the first building, presumably sees the lights of the second building through the window and runs around to get there. But all of the suspects appear to pull right in front of the second building, no questions asked.
The second building explodes.
So, firstly, what's the deal with Jane's house? Is there like a pool house or something?
Secondly, how would the bomber know which building to bomb?
Thirdly, how do the suspects know to go to the second building? Jane's car is parked in front of the main house. You would think that each person would do what Lisbon did (park in front and then walk around) rather than parking right in front of the second building.
It does make me think that either a) Jane planted the bomb himself and didn't want to blow up his main home or b) one of the suspects brought it in with him, making him an RJ associate taking one for the team thereby suggesting that RJ is not one of the 5 -- or 7? -- but rather holds a grudge against this lot.
Still don't know how they would know to go to the "pool house".
Ideas?
If RJ is truly just like PJ, then he would be as skillful at misdirection and manipulation as Patrick.
If so, wouldn't everything that Patrick knows be exactly what RJ wanted him to know. The list, the tattoo, Sophie's tape that Pj found in a minute of searching, etc etc.
I cannot predict what started RJ to start killing or who he is. But remember, from what we do know, it wasn't PJ. Rather PJ insulted a serial killer. PJ put himself in the line of fire.
What if RJ has a much larger plot? Much like the joker from Batman. Chaos. Thwart law. Etc.
All I'm saying is we all have been looking to closely at what we know from RJ instead of rather why we know it and what bigger picture is there? That surely is what PJ is really thinking about. Much like we see every episode. This is just in a bigger context.
Hey Guys.
1-) Red John : http://i.imgflip.com/4a7bq.gif
Ray Haffner : http://i.imgflip.com/4a7e2.gif
2-) Red John : http://oi41.tinypic.com/2z3zwvp.jpg
Ray Haffner : http://oi42.tinypic.com/11aec6d.jpg
3-) Red John : Love man.
Ray Haffner and Teresa Lisbon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPQ0QVl9qkU
And
http://oi39.tinypic.com/s12gq9.jpg
http://oi44.tinypic.com/316q25k.jpg
As others have mentioned Haffner is the closest of the final seven to being a parallel to Jane...They both like Lisbon and are on a first name basis with her...They are both fit, handsome and look young for their age...both dress well at all times...both seldom let their emotions get the best of them...same height....same build...same natural charm...
If you met the seven suspects at a party he's the last one you would think was a criminal...that would be important for Red John... He would need to seduce his marks without giving off any warning signals....
Somehow him and Lorelei as lovers just feels right...The Hafner and Lorelei relationship being a parallel to Lisbon and Jane...Could you see any of the other suspects as lovers to Lorelei ? Realistically ?
Hafner is neither muscular nor scrawny nor fat....He fits the description of the blind woman to a tee...much more than any other final suspect
Hafner is affiliated with two of the most powerful organizations in California...The CBI and Visualize...
The CBI gives him access to powerful people in law enforcement...and gave him training in techniques to cover up crimes....Remember RJ's first crime when he was still making mistakes ? Was this before Haffner became a police officer ?
Haffner was a member of Visualize before he joined CBI...this gave him training in psychological manipulation....He's the only suspect with a probable tie to The Red Barn murders...Lisbon asks him if he was involved in the murders...He gives a very cryptic answer...
Animals were tortured and kiled at the Red Barn farm...Animal mistreatment is often a precursor to a man becoming a serial killer...Ray is the only suspect with known link to the Red Barn...
Ray Haffner offered Lisbon a position with his organization in season 5....Was that organization a front for Tyger Tyger ?
His time with Visualize would give him experience in starting a cult...Perfect for starting an organization like Tyger Tyger...
Jane only reveals his true self to one person....Lisbon...Haffner only reveals certain facts about himself ( like being a Visualize member ) to one person we know of....Lisbon...
Brett Stiles somehow has knowledge of the fate of Kristina Frye....How ? Through his contacts at Visualize ? Ray Hafner is the only known Visualize member among the final seven other than Stiles himself...
Ray is an expert in surveillance....This would explain how RJ is always half a step ahead of Jane...How he knows about the final seven suspects...How he almost seems to be psychic....If Jane is deficient in one area it is modern technology....This would give RJ a needed edge against an intellectual equal...
Remember the video of Lorelei ? This is someone who is tech-savvy...
Maybe he's too obvious...but maybe he's like the Purloined Letter in the Edgar Allen Poe story....An answer that standing in front of our face the whole time...
Who is Red John?
Ray Haffner > Green
Brett Partridge > Red
For RH fans
do you remember when ray was the chief of CBI he requested from cho to spy on his team
and more likely who hired that woman to bug cho office.
it appears RH is a kind of guy who doesn't know shit about any thing and jane manipulated him several times is this supposed to be the delusive RED JOHN.. NO WAY!