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Ray Haffner

Ray Haffner
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Guys I have an idea.I think that the meeting of Bertram McAllister and Smith was about Red John i think they know who is Red John because he is or was a former member of the secret police organization Tyger Tyger i think he threatens to reveal the organization secrets if he is caught or betrayed by them.And this idea leaves out as suspects Bertram McAlister and Smith as possible suspects and Kirkland and Partridge are dead so what is left are Stiles and Haffner.I don't want Red John to be any of the seven suspects cause i imagine him as a perfect living monster and dont know who can play his role,but according to Heller the list is accurate so, Stiles never worked for any police force so we are left with Haffner.Please comment and rate and tell me what you think.

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When near dead killed girl tell PJ about 3 dots tattoo on killer left hand , i think that Hafner kill her. Why? 

In that episode when Van Pelt Lisbon and Heffner alone in hotel room where murder is done , watch carefull when Hefner see spider on the couch , and he told he is scared and hate spiders. Maybe that 3 dots isnt really tatoo , but it is a spider bites on hand , whick obvies belong to Hafner.

So Hefner is RJ or almost right hand of RJ

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Red John is a marked man.  He has a three dotted tattoo on his left shoulder.  My question is, how did the P.I. know this? There are two possibilities here.

a) She was Red John's lover
b) She saw it at the Gym

I would go with option b personally.  If option b is correct, then Ray is more likely because we've seen footage of him working out.  It's very possible he wore a sleeveless shirt one day and that's how she noticed the tattoo.

Also, she recognized Red John at the door.  This makes me think the person who hired her was the one at the door.  She was sure she was working for visualize.  Therefore, Red John is a known affiliate of Visualize and very likely Ray Haffner.

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okay,
I am just going to make this clear again so people can explain to me how the TT are separate from RJ. 
It was RJ that said he was going to kill until the list went down and either him or PJ is killed by one another. That means that Partridge on the list and Kirkland on the list too, had to be killed by Red John. Which means that Partridge and Kirkland were killed by the TT which belongs to Red JOHN. He owns the TT's. Otherwise RJ would have killed noone. They aren't two different things. They have to be the same thing. 
So we can assume that RJ uses the members of the TT's and doesn't mind killing them. We knew that already from Jane's analysis of his personality. Did he order the killing of Kirkland, or did Reede because he knew too much. Does that mean that the Sheriff, Reede and Bertram are all apart of the TT's. Bertram is ruled out as RJ as he is not a strong leader. however he did tell Jane that maybe he should speak to him alone about Red John.  The sheriff didn't have much to say either and his presence wasn't really made know. Reede could be red John but it's more likely that he is a follower of TT along with the other three. That leaves Stiles and Haffner seen walking side by side in most shots. Haffner is my bet.

Why was RJ going to kill the PI, did he speak to her and she told him that it didn't work. Wouldn't he have wanted to wait until she passed on the info or did he know straight away that the bug didn't work? How did he know it didn't work?

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Come on! Partridge is dead! Deal with it! 
RJ is not Jane! That is bullshit! 

And I think that RJ is Haffner. 



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We got a clue in the latest episode with his feakout of seeing the spider on the wall.  Ive seen people that claim the dictation of Sophie Miller stated the patient suffered from a severe case of "acarophobia" and that jane quickly stated the fear of heights which lisbon replied i know.  The above mentioned phobia is the fear that the skin is infested with small crawling organisms.  This is incorrect.  Listen close and turn on CC if needed it clearly states "achrophobia"  the fear of heights.  This could be another red herring that Red John threw out to distract Jane.  Its obvious that the spider scene is significant, he is terrified of them.  There was a clue given that red john likes cold, insects dont like cold and he would be more comfortable in that environment.  The other thing is that in episode 6-1 Red John did not kill lisbon, because he likes her, he painted the face on her, and he referred to her as "Teresa" which almost everyone else refers to her as "Lisbon"

Haffner is Red John

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Guys,
We seen Haffner buffing up right in a sleeveless top. He is left handed but does he have a tattoo???? I can't remember seeing one. He is perfect ..a little too perfect. Red John would put on a show right wouldn't show his true self BUT he wouldn't be able to hide his competitive side with Jane. There is no way Red John would show how smart he is in his true form. No way. He would do the opposite.
Therefore, when someone can find the video of him then its might be him. I can't fiiind it so annoying.

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