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Ray Haffner

Ray Haffner
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Comme Bruno Heller l'a dit, Red John a commis une erreur fatale dans la dernière scène de l'épisode 1 de la saison 6.

J'ai revu plusieurs fois cette scène  sans rien trouver de bizarre. Il avait ses gants, ne laissait pas de traces... Je me suis dit "Il a peut être fait une erreur en utilisant le téléphone de Lisbon, mais qu'aurait il pu faire ?

Je me remémorait ce qu'il disait à Patrick Jane dans cette scène "Désolé Patrick, mais TERESA ne peut venir au téléphone maintenant. Puis je prendre un message ? Non ? Bon, je lui dirai que vous avez appelé !"

Et puis, j'ai vu la scène de rêve de Lisbon de l'épisode 2, et tout s'est éclairé ! J'ai compris, je pense, ce qui était caché en pleine lumière ! Dans la série, faites bien attention à la manière dont on nomme les personnes.

Je m'explique, Patrick Jane, Wayne Rigsby et Grace Van Pelt appellent Térésa Lisbon... "Lisbon". Tout comme Reed Smith ou Gale Bertram... Tout comme 99 % des gens. Sauf une seule personne dans la liste des suspects... Ray Haffner (et pour cause romantique, bien sûr)

Il est le seul à l'appeler par son prénom. Mais c'est aussi un excellent suspect : Il fait parti de vizualise, comme Red John, fait parti des forces de l'ordre (donc doit être au courant pour la conspiration des "tyger, tyger") entre autre.

Une si petite erreur, induite par un excès de confiance...

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Hey everybody I will not be accusing anyone specifically here but what I will do is explain every possibility I can think of.. so here it goes;-
Lets take a close look at the remaining suspects..
1.reede smith
2.gale bertram
3.sherrif thomas mcallister

4.raymond haffner
5.brett stiles

ok so we all know of the meeting that took place between reede smith and bertram and the sherrif and ofcourse im guessing now we can addume that its affiliated with the tyger tyger organisation for sure.. so i think its safe to presume that they are all in tyger tyger... I do however think because of simple gut intuition that bertram is with them but as a mole and is actually a good guy.. heller said these specific words:- "he may be a bad guy with a hidden agenda or he may be a good guy with a hidden agenda" .. anyways lets carry on

we know the remaining 2 suspects are from visualize raymond haffner and owner of visualize brett stiles.... so yeah these are not incorprated with tyger tyger as im guessing because I think its a competition going on with visualize and tyger tyger... doubt they are allies but they could be that is one possibility.. however brett stiles knows red john.. this could mean hes haffner and it could be he knows one of the people associated with tyger tyger.. (im guessing mcallister) but bruno confirmed this will go a long way in finding red john especially if red john is infact bertram smith or mcallister.. ... my guess is rj is infact visualize and tyger tyger was just his way of telling jane about the organization or that one of the people in tyger tyger is infact visualize but just spys there and this man is red john (im guessing mcallister again).. or one last thing:- visualize and tyger tyger work together thats how rj was at elliston farm back in 88 but I doubt this is the case... im going with option 1. Now next episode 1 visualize member is killed and the episode seems to focus alot on haffner and haffner actually seems intelligent this episode.. my honest prediction is haffner is red john . Because the only people who fit are him and mcallister.. I could write more but im extremely tired and sleepy to do so .. if you have any points at all ask in the comments and I will answer them , thanks for reading

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For a long time people have placed enormous significance in the Blake poem The Tyger recited by Red John to Jane. We all (including myself) have looked for a million ways to connect the dots between William Blake and Red John and use this as some clue to his identity.

Perhaps it is not this at all. Perhaps when RJ recited the poem to Jane it was not to leave a calling card, but rather to give him a clue to the conspiracies going on within the law enforcement agencies. RJ may have nothing to do with this corruption, but he is aware of it and wants to alert Jane to this (cryptically, of course) as a warning to him to be careful who he trusts. RJ wants to keep Jane alive (obviously, saving his life here) and is absolutely in love with the game of cat and mouse. It is his raison d'etre for the last decade. So he must protect Jane so they can continue this brilliant mind battle. I don't even think RJ cares if Jane ultimately wins. I think he will take pride in being defeated, if he is. But he absolutely must continue this battle with Jane, and wants to preserve Jane's healthy existence.

So, perhaps the Tyger poem was a warning to Jane, and there is not in fact a relationship between the corruption and RJ. Why, for example, would they have a password which is from a Blake poem and is also something that RJ likes to recite? This just sounds odd. Foolish almost, like a bunch of kids in a treehouse thinking they are cool. It doesn't really fit the personality of RJ to my thinking.

So, I am starting to really think that RJ is outside this group, and his poem to Jane was a warning, not a ritual of his, or some game he was playing to see if Jane could figure out who he was.

So, who would this theory tend to support as being RJ? Somebody who could have knowledge of the corruption, but not be an insider to any great extent. That tells me Haffner or Stiles. Stiles seems to be the obvious choice for RJ if we never had the physical descriptions from Harker and Miller. But we must take this evidence into account, I suppose, and that leads to Haffner. The master surveillance man, with a wealthy business venture and enough ties to all the nefarious organizations to be able to have knowledge of this sort, and also be a manipulator of those within them.

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i am so disappointed by the last episode. it just makes no sense.
why did kirkland kill lennon without asking him who red john was? instead he goes around and kills people who might be red john. he could have asked lennon. what kind of bullshit is that? I am really disappointed and thought heller and his writer team would make the wrap up in a logic way. but sorry, the kirkland storyline is lame and just doesnt make sense at all.
I really hope heller and his team will come up with something smart and logic when reavealing the rj story, cause with what they came up now was a bit lame.
Tiger, tiger is a code for an organization. come on?!!! Lame, disappointing. After all those episodes and throwing around clues and fans analyzing like crazy, they didnt came up with something better then the revelation of last episode?!
I've been so mentalist addicted and now I am just disappointed, then more interesting than anything else,is not the question,who red john is, but the explanation of the whole rj story, making the puzzle fit.
unfortunately nothing of that in the episode "red listed." thumbs down reallly.

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So now, after RJ, Jane will have to match wits and talents against this huge corrupt organisation and the show will go on (for the rest of this season and one more after that, tops).

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Why didn't Kirkland ask Jason Lennon who red john was..??
He knew who red john was exactly but still bob killed him...
and he tortured haibach and Ben marks to know who red john was so as to avenge his brother...
Heller better fit the pieces right..

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IT WOULD SUCK SO HARD IF RED JOHN ARE SEVERAL PERSONS AND NOT A SINGLE CHARACTER!!!!!!!!

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