Hi guys !

My probleme (and i think OUR probleme) is that i cant answer those questions about trusting Heller!!! :

- Can we trust Heller when he says : " Red John is one of the seven of the list " . I trust him at 70% and dont trust him at 30% (I count well right ? :-p) . If we trust Heller on this point, Then for me RJ is Haffner. If Heller is playing us, then RJ is NOT on the list, and then for me RJ is CBI RON (so weird!!)

- Can we trust heller when he says : " Patridge is dead " . I trust him at 50% (you all know how many % I do NOT trust him right ?!? :-p ) ! If Patridge IS dead, then for me RJ is Haffner once again ! If Patridge IS NOT dead, my bet is on him !

Guys how do YOU trust Heller ??!!??

One more thing, we have all read, few hours ago, an EXCELLENT theory about RJ being MCALLISTER, and i agree with most ( and i can add that i thought that : "HE IS MAR " meant he is Marshal ( but i know à sheriff is NOT à Marshal but maybe the man was confused as i am ! :-p )

But for me MCALLISTER can NOT be RED JOHN because :
1/ he is supposed to be good with computer (he entered the CBI system !) and I dont see him being good with computers (i assume that i can be wrong at 100%)

2/ for me when we saw MCALLISTER + Bertrham + Smith in Bertrham's office in season 6, it was something to PREPARE for what is coming AFTER they catch ReD JOHN ! They do that in almost every show in USA, ( i dont know if i made myslef clear but i feel I'am right 98% ! )


And then, just for curious people, you can spend hours in wikipedia searching for " William Blake" (we know that Heller took à lot of references from him : tyger tyger, Brace of Patridge, the Great Red Dragon, ....) you will find some strange things if you look at this (but it will be way too long here ....)


Ps : I'm sorry for my English, je suis Français donc excusez moi ;-) , and for my IPad auto-correct to French (i havent read what i wrote so it may have a lot of auto correct things)

And dont forget : HoW do YOU TrUsT Bruno HeLLER ??

Just want to point this out:

Red John is supposed to be a "loner", who uses his influence/power to get others to do his bidding. Has anyone noticed that McAllister has worn a wedding band since we first saw him? In my opinion, this just rules him out even more as a suspect.

☺ He matches the physical description Rosalind Harker gave Jane. ◔̯◔
☺ He is affiliated with Visualize, and Red John is as revealed in season 5 (when they show a smiley face painted on a house owned by Visualize).  ๏̯͡๏
☺ Red John's alias is Roy. Ray. Roy. You see where I'm going with this.  ॓_॔
☺ He is involved with the police/CBI so it's easy for him to know someone on the inside that can cover up his tracks.  ๏̯͡๏
☺ He visited Lisbon at the hospital to check on her and he said they should date in the future. This affection could be a reason Red John didn't kill her when he killed Brett Partridge.  ๏̯͡๏
☺ As revealed in season 1 episode 16, one of Jane's clients is "Amy Haffner". Am I seeing a possible relationship . . . ? ◕ ‿ ◕

☹ The only thing making me a little hesitant on choosing him as RJ is that in season 4, when he was Jane's boss, Jane tricked him into believing he had solved a case by placing false evidence at the crime scene. If RJ is always a step ahead of Jane, then this wouldn't be the case. I still think, however, that RJ was just playing Jane to see how smart he really was.  ◕︵◕

Bruno Heller Stated that red john likes it cold as clue
well
Haffner Pass (69°47′S 71°22′WCoordinates: 69°47′S 71°22′W) is a pass running northeast–southwest and rising to about 500 metres (1,600 ft) between Gilbert Glacier and Mozart Ice Piedmont in northern Alexander Island, Antarctica. It was surveyed by the British Antarctic Survey, 1975–77, and was named by the UK Antarctic Place-Names Committee in 1980 after Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Haffner Symphony (1782) in association with the name of the Mozart Ice Piedmont.[1]

I personally think Red John is Haffner for a few reasons:

1. He is a creepy ass guy

2. When Lisbon asks him about the farm, he hesitates to answer (because it is already made aware that Haffner is a member of Visualized, and the way he says that he was a bad kid implies something).

3. Red John probably likes Lisbon, so he wouldn't kill her off right away (hence the smile on the face and an unconscious Lisbon). This also points out to the Hospital scene where Haffner comes a little too close.

If I'm wrong so be it, but trying to figure out a legitimate theory is really hard as there is a lot of info flowing through the show (People afraid of heights vs pigeons).

Btw I found something really interesting...
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/11/27/323804.jpg

Re-watching season one. In episode 16 "Bloodshot," at 22:13, a list of Jane's previous clients is on the screen, and someone named Amy Haffner is on it. Interesting! I wonder if there is a long lost connection there. Amy could be someone related to Haffner (wife, sister, mother or anything) and there could be motive or a backstory to this. Or it could be a complete coincidence. The list of clients also included Megan Fox so I am not thinking too much of it, lol! But it definitely caught my eye enough to mention!

One big assumption that I made here is that the things we have seen actually happened. What I mean is:
1. The people on the list, as far as we know from the first 3 episodes of season 6 and series 5, includes Red John in it.
2. When we see Partridge dying, that's what actually happened, he dies. We do not see him fake it so we assume he is gone. This leaves 6 suspects.
3. The description given of Red John from the blind lady is true. So list goes to 2 people, as they are the only middle aged and healthy guys on the list. Bob Kirkland and Haffner. 
I say Haffner cos the dude is a creep.
Although, the promo for the 4th episode suggests one of these points is misleading.