Well, the most
important clue, the handshake that made PJ reveal the suspect list, now two of
the suspects are gone. So it narrows the list to 5.



First
I thought that RJ was an organization, it would almost make sense except for
the first murders, before RJ met any of the organization guys. Because of this
and the description made of RJ we can not assume nor Stiles nor Bertram are RJ.
But they may be involved.



Finally,
the phobia. They did not say the fear was of heights. They say RJ had a fear
and told it was heights BUT she says also that probably she lied in which fear it
was. RJ was scared of something when he killed Brett Patridge. There were pigeons
there, RJ is afraid of pigeons. In the following episodes we see that McAllister
is afraid of pigeons.



So I
would say that RJ is part of the tiger tiger organization, probably one of the
top notch of that organization and that’s why they help him with his murders.
But he must be one guy, and I believe is Thomas McAllister because of the age,
description, handshake and phobia to pigeons.



The
rest of the people in the organization are the ones that were together in the
room when PJ surprised them Bertram, Smith and Haffner. Haffner s probably a friend, mentor of something of
RJ. And Stiles may or not be in the organization, but sure I'm sure he is
involved.

Hello guys !

I always thought that kirkland was an accomplice of RJ .... It turns out that he is not !

So my BIG question is HOW RJ got the 7 names ?? I thought that Kirkland gave it to RJ but I was wrong !!

So how did he find the 7 peoples ???!!! Lucky ?? He assumed that PJ would find out about his accomplice+ the twin of one his accomplice (kirkland) ??? Or he is REALLY à master of MIND ?????????

HELP

Merci beaucoup les amis !

BERTRAM RECEIVED ORDERS FROM SMITH, SMITH PART OF THE CONSPIRACY, BOTH PART OF THE CONSPIRACY. NOT RED JOHN.

PARTRIDGE AND KIRKLAND DEAD.

STILES TOO OLD.

HAFFNER OR SMITH. 

so.... haffner or mcallister. i can beat my ass off that is one of them, millions of milions of dollars. why? they are the only ones that can be... heller has made them both to whistle, heller has made one episode that have been special for them, next epsiode will be about haffner and episode  was mcallister. they fit the age they both great actors 

why i choose mcallister? because haffner wanted lisbon to work with him, to be part of the conspiracy maybe? 

VERY IMPORTANT THINGS.

1. CHO KNEW ABOUT THE POEM IN SEASON 3 I THINK. OMG ... IS HE PART OF IT? COULD BE THAT THE ANSWER OF WHY RED JOHN IS ALWAYS AHEAD OF HIM? SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

2. MAYBE PARTRIDGE WASNT KILLED BY RED JOHN, AS WEL AS TODD JOHNSON, HE WAS KILLED BY OLOUGHLIN, PART OF THE TIGER TIGER, ALL PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED BY THE CONSPIACY SAYS TIGER TIGER, AND RED JOHN IS THE LEADER OF THAT CONSPIRACY. IS OBVIOUS!!.

3. KIRKLAND TWIN COULD KILL JASON LENNON SO HE DOESNT REVEAL WHO IS RED JOHN. BECAUSE HE WORKS FOR HIM.

RED JOHN IS SHERIFF THOMAS MCALLISTER,

Ok. Here I go..

Bob Kirkland and Brett Partridge are goners so that leaves 5 people.

Bertram, Haffner, Smith. In my opinion these 3 aren't RJ, in episode 2 we see Lisbon have a nightmare with these 3 in it and what are they doing? Clearing up a Red John murder, thats their role, they are the ones who cover for Red John, essentially "Getting away with murder" as Kirkland said this episode.

Now we are left with two people: Brett Stiles and Sheriff Thomas McAllister.

Bret Stiles, I think, has a close relation to RJ, we know RJ was a visualize member, and the fact that he knows so much about RJ, he even told Jane where RJ had Kristina. Why didn't RJ kill Stiles for telling Jane where Kristina was? Because Bret was the one who took RJ under his wing and helped him forming a sort of father/son relationship.

Now onto McAllister.

Nick Nordella plays "Young Man" in episode 7(great red dragon) and 8(Red John) (imdb casting: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196216/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196212/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2 )

Here is a clear shot of his face: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3043796224/nm0634984

Remind you of anyone? A young Sheriff Thomas McAllister, most likely he is going to play young RJ(sheriff) in a visualize farm flashback from 1988.

Another thing, according the script, McAllister is about 45 years old (2008): that
means he was born sometime between 1962-1963; the actor who portrays
him, Xander Berkeley, is older than McAllister (he was born in 1955). This is vital. Why did the directors knock down his age? BECAUSE HE IS RED JOHN. In 1988 he would of been 32-33 if his real age was used but the directors knocked it down so in 1988 he is 25, fitting the Red John was a male under the age of 30 description given by Jane.

Source: http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Sheriff_Thomas_McAllister

There we have it.

Right, so we have a conspiracy on our hands. We know Bertram, Smith and McAllister are involved, probably Haffner, but what about Stiles? He has no links to law enforcement, so why would he be a member of a secret club? 

My guess is that Stiles Visualize collective is feuding with the Tyger Tyger club.

My other guess is that McAllister is running the show, which would probably make him Red John.

I really can't say a damn name !!!

Yes, I AM CONFUSED

I try though to tell you two name but the fact that NON of the suspect is fit red john discreption its what bother me.. thats why:

We still have 5 suspect left:

- Mcallister: he is a member of that "Tyger Tyger" stuff but he dousnt afraid from hights and we're not sure about his penjuin issue.. so he may and may not.

- Ray is a member of the visualize but he is muscular so he doesnt fit what Rozalind said.. and I think that he left the cbi and started his own detective thing.. so maybe he is not a tyger tyger type.

- Reede : he is young and doesnt fit sophie's and rozalind description but! Maybe he killed Bob because he want it to be just between him and jane.. and maybe because he think that Bob well know that he's dirty.

Brett stiles: you know.. he is old and he is not a cop so tyger tyger do not fit him but he is visualize founder so maybe he is much intelligent than we thought. And if he is not red john maybe he know him well or he relative to him some how.

Bertram: for sure he is know who red john is im posetive.. but i dont know if he red john or not.. he is in cbi forever and he watch jane so that's why he might be red john.. and in all season's he always tell the others to watch jane and he didnt fired jane?! But i read that if he is red john that sophie will know him but i dont think that they met! His position is high so i dont think that he is
Meeting suspects!

Im really thrilled to know more!

After seeing episode 3 of season 6, where Thomas McAllister came out of several seasons' hibernation, I'm starting to think he could be the guy. Reasons why:

1) Bringing him out early in Season 6 like this puts him right back in the running.  Why waste an episode reviving an old character for no reason?
2) Lorelei Martins told Patrick something to the effect that "You and Red John are just alike. I don't know why you didn't become best friends the moment you shook hands" -- Another poster reminded me of the scene where Patrick and McAllister play rock, paper, scissors and PJ wins every time.  Get it, shaking hands -- that's how you play rock, paper, scissors.  The two of them had a lot of fun in that scene, so in a way they were just alike.  And the way PJ won every time showed there was some sort of mind meld going on there.  Kind of a tiger, tiger thing with the symmetry, etc.
3) In season 6 episode 3, McAllister did seem to "like" Patrick in a way -- as Stiles said, Red John wants to be friends with PJ. Red John has rescued Patrick once before in an earlier season, so the rooftop rescue seems very Red John-ish.
4) Also recall McAllister's creepy woodland encounter with Grace, who now seems to be a sympathizer (at a minimum) to Visualize.

So -- all this adds up to McAllister being a very viable possibility.  But far from a slam dunk.