But is Red John really dead?
Heller: Red John is dead. It’s passed that point.
it's done guys
this is from interview with the writer,casts among 20 questions
But is Red John really dead?
Heller: Red John is dead. It’s passed that point.
it's done guys
this is from interview with the writer,casts among 20 questions
I wish people would stop hating on Xander Berkley....
Xander and Simon did a great job with what screen time they had.
The issue I have with the episode is there simply was NOT enough RJ and PJ...
Let's be honest.....we didn't care what Lisbon, Cho, VanPelt, or Rigsby were doing....
This entire episode should have been filled with PJ and RJ.
Bruno Heller under used two of the best actors working in television.......
Xander and Simon could've done so much if more had been written for them.
They did great with what little they had.
RJ is only a man.... I didn't expect him to show up wearing a cape or having horns.
The death scene was great. There are no monsters out there. Only men capable of horrible things.
So i say "great job" to Xander and Simon.....I only wish they were together on screen much much longer....
The fans wanted a longer, showdown....
Back-story Spoilers!!!!!! The Mcalister Clan made the trip from Ireland with the
Janes and other important clans. The clans where mystics and masters of
the dark arts. There was much division among the clans related to the
luciferian religion. The religion it self is not considered bad but
rather dangerous if used by the uninitiated. The Mcalisters began using
there skills like parlor tricks early in the 19th century until the
great rift. It was the council of the elders that the Clan was banned
from the practice of black magic. Mcalisters practiced in secret until
the gifted RED JOHN appeared. Mcalister is the figurative embodiment of
the great dragon with the Blake society being the true force of the
cult. RED JOHN merely practiced human sacrifices as part of his
luciferian religion. RJ took offense when Jane spoke callously of his
religion and sacrificed his wife and child as act of contrition and
vengeance. The FBI has been looking into child and adult abduction and
sacrifices cases since the 60's but very closely since 80's. The Red
John ascended master period. Stiles was practicing the white version and
RJ the black.
You have to admit... Simon and Xander did an A M A Z I N G job in their scenes.. the sly, smug looks on Xanders face.. Simon and his amazing portrayal of pain and revenge in the final scene.. it was just amazing to watch those 2 on screen.
You HAVE to give them that!
I see many complaining about the pigeon thing.
I think that Bruno meant to let Patrick use this "cheap" trick because after all these years of trying all these well thought out plans and traps he failed to get Red John with, he went "back to basics" and just outsmarted him with a small cheap trick.
How would you have liked this to happen though?I also wanted a showdown but if you think about it they can't have a gunfight, or a sword fight or argue each other to death. Endless dialogue would have made it stale. The trick Patrick use was right up his alley and he knew it's something RJ wouldn't expect.
I only feel that the execution of the trick was a bit rushed from a writing point of view. We don't truly see where the pigeon comes from and the way it starts is truly unrealistic:
Patrick: "Can I show you something?"
RJ: "Sure" *Walks over and holds out his hand . . . uhm DUH!
The rest of the RJ reveal sequence I really don't mind. It was poetic and it was a fitting end.
The writers have from the beginning of this series had poetry as a huge theme and in my opinion this episode ran like poetry.
There was this monster created by years of hype and mental torture, but he comes to Patrick in the form of a man. A mere man, weak and afraid of death.
I think also that in a continuation of the Bible-themed season we've had so far, it may have been the overall idea of the writers to show the "lucifer" of the series Red John be defeated by good, Patrick Jane and then beg for forgiveness. Patrick passed judgement on Red John. He says to Red John that he is an evil man.
Revelations, if I am not mistaken, speaks of a dove that brings peace. Maybe that is where the pigeon comes in. And the church and all of the symbols we have been given in this season.
I think you get my idea.
In short, I think that the reason the episode played out the way it did was because of a central theme the writers followed with the Red John story. He was a "beast" that deceived men and fooled nations to follow him. But he came in the form of a man, who when finally brought to judgement, sought forgiveness and mercy.
Many would have loved a creepy character be revealed as Red John and the episode be an amazing showdown. I also would have loved that.
But the ending that we were given is a satisfying one when you look at how well that theme was carried forward.
If you look at the poetry, the symbolism and take a step back to see the bigger picture, the Red John story was a brilliant masterpiece and the end was the Revelations of this story.
William Blake's poetry and art dealt mainly with religion and Heaven and Hell, and God and the devil.
The next episode is also appropriately titled "My Blue heaven".
Take all of that in and you will come to the realization that Bruno Heller wrote and created a masterpiece of a story.
judging on the next episode's name anythoughts on who is blue john ?
What in gods good name did i just watch? A mastermind serial killer was deceived by bread crumbs and a pigeon? Good god i feel like the life has been sucked out of me in one quick sweeping motion.After 6 years of anticipation and expectation, Percy from fuc*ing Nikita is Red John? When he did the voice i just lost it to be honest............... Sadly BH has just destroyed 6 years of his life's work + he has disappointed his fans.
Mentalist fans,please stop getting your hopes up because if you do you will be broken again. Red John is over and you might get your explanation in the coming episodes about the list of 7 but thats it. Partridge is dead so stop making stupid idiotic theories and accept the fact that our show was just shat on.