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I have been reading a lot about mentalist lately and whoisredjohn.com is a daily stop for me. So I wanted to post my own before the big episode.

First I'll go with the ones I don't see as RJ;

1: Bret Stiles: Love the man but still no RJ. Probably really died in the explosion.

2: Gale Bertram: Nothing in the mentalist is that easy. Jane won't let anyone else reach real RJ before him.

3: Reede Smith
: Another def. not RJ suspect.
4: Brett Partridge: Sorry for the fans but he is dead. Cho was there with the body which had a trasparent cover.


So that leaves us with 3 suspects;

1: Ray Haffner

2: Robert Kirkland
3: Thomas McAllister


Ok, let's have a look at each;

1: Ray Haffner: Can't tell he is my favourite but still can't cross the name of the possible suspects. His love with Lisbon creates a "?" in my mind but on the other hand he is distant with PJ which is something I don't expect from RJ even in his fake ID. Also he was standing at the "well cooked" side of the explosion so he is most probably dead.


2: Robert Kirkland: Robert is dead as we watched it, Reede told it and so on but we should talk about the "evil twin"

2.1-Michael Kirkland: First of all if he ends up as RJ it will be a bit cheap imho. But still fittin background, never found body, possible carnival background, the tortue house in the pines (Rosalind Harker says RJ smells like pines) and so on makes him a good candidate.
I hope to see Michael in the last episode as it is a loose end but as RJ... something doesnt feel so satisfying about it.

3: Thomas McAllister: Seems like he is the best candidate.
First of all he is always friendly and protects PJ as it fits with RJ's attitude. Plays a mind game on PJ about the fear of heights (which we didn't see before). RJ would love that and would def. use that chance as McAllister did.
When RJ meets PJ there would def. be some talk between them and a character that we know of would be more interesting to listen to. Lets say Michael Kirkland appears it would be like; "You thought I was Bob, HAHA!" and that will be all but on the other hand a character like McAllister can have more we can hear about.
One last thing is that he was standing (near an open door) next to PJ during the explosion with Bertram on the other side. Bertram walked away, PJ still has the perfect hair, McAllister over burned! I don't think so...
The bad side is that when we look at the next episode's promo, we can see him in the scenes (not directly but high chance that he is the one going through the glass, in the church and struggling with PJ). This is the bad side because I don't want to end up learning who is RJ in a promo but maybe we are the ones digging too deep.

So I am telling that Thomas McAllister is most likely Red John. Hope I am mistaken and the last episode will shock me so I can enjoy it much more.

Thanks.







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Look at the promo (at 14-16 sec) from next episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77P7ebT0QI&HD=1

http://s22.postimg.org/sba9etmzz/Red_jon2.jpg
Obviously McAllister is hunted by someone and is till alive.

There are 7 Suspects on the list. Its confirmed by Simon Baker and Bruno Heller that Red John is one the 7 on the list.
And its confirmed by Kira Tinsley that Red John have a Tattoo with 3 dots. 

Robert Kirkland = Confirmed Dead
Brett Partridge = Confirmed Dead (May have had a Tattoo, since the arm was burned) 
Bret Stiles = Have no Tattoo

Ray Haffner = Have no Tattoo

That Leaves us with 3 Suspects:

Reede Smith = Have Tattoo, but turned himself in, and it's confirmed Red John wanted Smith dead, Patrick also was very sure it's not him. We have also seen clues of this before, He is to chubby in comparison with Red John from before, different shoesize and so on.

This leave us now with 2 Suspect.

Gale Bertram = Have Tattoo

Thomas McAllister = Have Tattoo (Presumed Dead but looks alive in the Promo),

Now take a look at this link and see all the perfect comparison between Thomas McAllister and Red John.
http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Thomas_McAllister

Besides: https://twitter.com/chrisnielsen/status/388894514057723905

"Got to double Xander Berkeley on "The Mentalist" Shortest my hair has ever been and I love it! Thanks Kevin Derr, Alex Daniels, Dane Farwell"

The stunt through the window in next episode? Xander Berkeley is the Actor of: Thomas McAllister

Than look at the similarities between Red Jon and Gale Bertam:
http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Gale_Bertram

Its alot less similarities between Red and Gale Bertram than it is with Thomas McAllister and Red John.



Dont let your judgement cloud you with doubt. Look at the Hard Fact i gave you what is confirmed and whatnot. This leave us with 3 suspects, where 
Thomas McAllister fits the description of Red John best.

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These are my latest ideas built upon the information provided in Theory 13389. Enjoy.....

I wonder if 'Red John' the identity is the composite of the work of two people, who are *not* working together. One of them is a compulsive killer and enjoys the act of murder and the other one gets off on theatrically staging the murders, including the smiley face and notes, etc. One of them is destructive (murderer) the other creative (face painting, personal notes on nice stationary and such) a 'fearful symmetry'....

Brett with two t's could definitely be the theatrical one and could respond to murder scenes and then add his 'personal touch'. In this way, Partridge 'Creates' the idea of Red John from *someone else's* killings, thus taking the satisfaction and credit away from the original killer.

So in this way, Red John was never a person, but an *idea* created out of two separate person's activities. The older 'RJ1' would have killed or attempted to kill Brett once he figured out that he was the one defileing his killings. Brett's unique knowledge would be knowing what the original crime scene looked like before he staged it, so he could always identify and target the same killer's victims with his Red John theatrics.

Sooooooo..... In the finale, Jane will get to kill RJ1, who actually murdered his family, but he can't kill the potentially already or soon-to-be truly dead Brett who is the person who's theatrics were responsible for Jane going on TV and unknowingly getting his family targeted. RJ1 finally gets 'respect/credit' for his work, but also gets wasted by Jane.

To build on these ideas, the pigeon as a symbol has been attributed to both the Sheriff and Brett by some of us. Maybe that was planned by Bruno to indicate that these two people are the components of Red John!

The Sheriff said he will 'kill anything, with a face and is very low key. Brett couldn't hurt a fly, but likes to play/hang out with dead things. The Sheriff kills then gets out of dodge, Brett likes to respond to crime scenes, have his sick little fun and stick around to create drama. 'Red John' doesn't kill either Lisbon or Jane when he has the chance because he is actually Brett (the non-killer) in a goofy costume.

The Sheriff tells Patrick flat-out that he is not Red John. What he should be saying is that; 'I killed your family and then some asshole painted them in blood and took credit'.

The Sheriff has been trying to discover who's been messing with his kills, hence the Blake Association is hunting 'Red John'. Brett knows that the Blake Association is looking for him and is trying to use Patrick to hunt them down as a defensive move.

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In S06E07 at 31:55 very difficult to see, I’ll
put the image in the comments, a wine bottle’s box,

The vineyard is called SE7EN GRACES, it
must mean seven graces.


The logo is a cluster of grapes with seven
grapes on it.


The product’s name is 3infandel (don’t know
how to read that big number three)


It’s a 2007 product, and guess what, from
NAPA VALLEY

750ml/Bottle,
still one more thing I couldn’t
read, maybe if someone with HD can do it.

 



So what does that mean? McAlister is RJ? Or
it’s just a gift from him to Bertram.

Could he be the owner of that vineyard? Or
it’s RJ’s?

 



I tried to find that wine on the web, it
turns out that Napa valley is famous for its wineries.


Too many bottles of wine in that Bertram
hideout, but this SE7EN GRACES thing, doesn’t exist anywhere. It’s the future
winery of Bruno HELLER.


Let’s
get back to WHOISRJ, its becoming too obvious that PJ doesn’t trust Lisbon we
still don’t know why? Lately for example, we don’t know what happened in the
Malibu house before the explosion, which shot who? Why is he keeping this from her, or is it from us?
Was PJ hiding body parts
under those white sheets?




Someone, few theories ago, talked about Carmen
li in incomprehensible English, I thought I I understood that he meant Lisbon
is Carmen Li, Lee or Leigh, would that be possible? mmmm

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http://s22.postimg.org/sba9etmzz/Red_jon2.jpg

Need more proof? 99.9% sure its Thomas McAllister.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77P7ebT0QI&HD=1

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When Kirkland asked Jason Lennon, "Do you recognize me," he found out his twin had altered his appearance. Michael Kirkland was "corrupted" by RJ when he BECAME RJ when he was part of Visualize. Now, he looks like someone else, and has a new name. That someone is one of the dead suspects from the explosion. I'm betting it's McAllister. He faked his death by placing Robert Kirkland's body under or in the house, with the bomb, so "his" DNA would be found among the dead.
I think he goes to the church intending to gloat, then kill PJ, knowing Bertram is on the hook for being RJ. Somehow, that doesn't work out in the church.

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What time do episodes get posted to CBS.com? I won't be able to watch live! Thanks!

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