Red John is Max Winter!!!! So here is why I think Max Winter is Red John! I rewatched season 3 and currently in episode 4 where Max Winter was introduced. If you may recall Max winter's history, His wife was murdered in which her throat was also cut. And in this episode, when Jane meets Max in the guest room of the TV show Karen Cross, Jane did his deductive reasoning against Max but Jane is convinced that MW has a secret in which makes him calm or confident. MW also talks about reconciliation about the murderer of his wife but Jane thinks that is bullshit. So, what makes MW calm and feels like he doesnt have to seek revenge? It is because he is Red John and probably the killer of his own wife. Also, his job as a businessman and a construction manager (probably cutiron properties? ). He isnt in the list because he didnt shook hands with Jane but he gave him a gift. A gun. In which he used to kill the RJ impersonator in the end of season 3. 

Anyway, I saw a theory that almost share the same thoughts with me, so i think you should just read it.

http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Jack_Coleman%27s_character_Max_Winter_the_real_Red_John_%3F

Serial is fucked up . I really get bored , Hellergoes on a binge ,WE WANT THE FUCKING END WHO THE FUCK THIS RED JOHN IS HAAAA? ANSWER IS BELOW;

Tyger tyger, such a crazy show
now the story has no more flow.
What twisted hand or stupid mind,
could frame things so badly combined?
Tyger tyger, this show sucks!
Who's Red John? Who gives a fuck!

Theory #7091 • By Mentalcase. 
Posted 6 hours ago

38 people find it plausible
24 people find it unlikely
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Tyger tyger, such a crazy show
now the story has no more flow.
What twisted hand or stupid mind,
could frame things so badly combined?
Tyger tyger, this show sucks!
Who's Red John? Who gives a fuck!

If beloıw theory is valid than ;

Reed will tell RJ that Kirkland the Robert has gone, RJ will send twin one Michael to Patrick ,because Robert before he died told Patrick "come visit me". Thery will put Michael in jail and Patrick will be missdirected by RJ through Michael.

Theory #7131 • Byloveagoodstory 
Posted 13 minutes ago

2 people find it plausible
1 people find it unlikely
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Ok now all of you just stop! lets reveal some facts...

RJ is not an organisation. The tyger tyger group is a group of RJ's friends. Robert Kirkland knew of the password because his brother joined the organisation and has probably told Robert about the password. Reede Smith must be on a very high level in the organisation, he must know all the members and thats just the reason he didn't respond to Kirkland's tyger tyger. The only explanation ''Robert'' didn't ask the guy who killed in hospital who is Red John is because that wasn't Robert, it was his twin brother, who works with Red John and the reason why he asked him if he recodnises him is because they know each other but he looked different before, and now he was trying to look like Robert in the hospital, and the answer no is the prove that he has changed that much, that even his friends don't recodnise him. But the organisation doesn't kill people RJ wants to kill they just cover up for RJ that is what makes RJ so hard to find. 

Ok now all of you just stop! lets reveal some facts...

RJ is not an organisation. The tyger tyger group is a group of RJ's friends. Robert Kirkland knew of the password because his brother joined the organisation and has probably told Robert about the password. Reede Smith must be on a very high level in the organisation, he must know all the members and thats just the reason he didn't respond to Kirkland's tyger tyger. The only explanation ''Robert'' didn't ask the guy who killed in hospital who is Red John is because that wasn't Robert, it was his twin brother, who works with Red John and the reason why he asked him if he recodnises him is because they know each other but he looked different before, and now he was trying to look like Robert in the hospital, and the answer no is the prove that he has changed that much, that even his friends don't recodnise him. But the organisation doesn't kill people RJ wants to kill they just cover up for RJ that is what makes RJ so hard to find. 

RJ is a single person, fits Rosaline's descriptions, middle age, under 6 ft tall but here is the thing why dont they just record the sound of suspect's voices and play it to Rosaline, she would immidiatly tell who RJ is since she knows his voice, but i think Jane already knows who RJ is and is just waiting for the right moment to kill him, i think Lisbon and the crew will come down to 1 suspect an they will go on a chase, Lisbon will obv. tell Jane not to come with them since she knows he will try to kill him, but Jane has another name in his head ( not sure, Partrige if he isnt dead, or someone else ) and when the CBI will chase the fake RJ the real one will not be prepared and Jane will find and kill him easily. 

I miss the old series full of fun and not so intense and dark. But it is getting interesting 1 thing to say to Heller: you better start to connect things together otherwise you will loose a whole lot of fans. :)

CYA, pusto

I took my Mom grocery shopping yesterday. Has anyone seen the top of the Ensure bottles? I bet that is the visual inspiration of the Red John smiley face. Check it out.

Question rather than theory:  In S6E2, the nurse/doctor who stepped into Lisbon's hospital room looking for Carmen Lee caught Jane's attention in a way that seemed to be more than just an interruption.  After leaving Lisbon's room Jane immediately called to talk with Sophie Miller and later told Lisbon that the hospitals/doctors spurred the idea.  Others have speculated that saying "Carmen Lee" triggered a post-hyponotic suggestion for Jane.  That would certainly help ensure that Jane was the one to discover Sophie Miler's decapitated head in the oven.

My question concerns the broader implications of a possible post-hypnotic suggestion.  If Jane was hypnotized while he was committed to the insane asylum, who did it and for what purposes?  I seems unlikely to be Sophie Miller or part of genuine therapy.  Jane appears to conclude that Sophie Miller was killed by Red John, implying that Red John (personally or through a proxy) had access to Jane while he was in the asylum.  That opens the doors for all sorts of complications.  In having access to Jane -- when Jane was uniquely vulnerable and without his knowledge -- what would Red John have wanted to accomplish?  Some obvious possibilities:

o  Having Jane sabotage his own hunt for Red John?

o  Planting various post-hypnotic suggestions that could be useful to Red John in the future if Jane gets to close to catching him?

o  Help Red John accomplish his criminal goals that go beyond just murdering women occasionally (although remember Jane's point made during the "Russet Potatoes" episode, that a hypnotized person cannot be forced to do something against his nature)?

o  Help Red John fight his competitors/opponents (e.g., Tyger Tyger organization)?

o Other?

It is also interesting to remember that both the FBI and Homeland Security were aware of Jane's commitment to the asylum.  Were they also aware of/responsible for any nefarious misuse of Jane while there?  What if the battle field between Jane, Red John, FBI, Homeland, and Tyger Tyger actually started while Jane was in the asylum, with Jane as a would-be pawn of all these forces?

I don't know where to go with this, but "Carmen Lee" could be more than a mistaken room number while Lisbon was hospitalized!

Ideas welcome.

Just a note.
In the last episode of the second season, Red John saved Jane.
If you think this is really red john

Ok he killed imitators but spare the guy who had to kill Jane. His mother was kidnapped.
That means the red john was aware of this case.
So there was always a mole among those investigating.


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