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Not that i think he is RJ but for those seeking someone left handed, in Lisbon's nightmare, Reed Smith is holding a knife in his left hand.

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In a strange twist, Bruno Heller reveals that he is Red John and has been murdering people for years and has now made a show to tell everyone.

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Everyone keeps saying heller confirmed this and that just like in season 6 he is using the whistling to throw you off. As far as the list it is a fake he would not tell lisbon the truth when has he ever the list is fake pj would not leave it sitting in his room especially if he knew someone was going to steal it rj thinks and believes these are the final suspects that jane might think but I bet he has either his own mental (in his head list or an extra person he left off) the list is to make rj kill the suspects off one by one so pj can catch him in the act do you honestly believe that heller would give you such an easy clue like having haffner and mcallister whistle remember rj is waldo a bird that flies from nest to nest looking from a far none of these men do that kirkland has a right to be in the cbi office, bertram, smith, the only ones out of place would be mcallister haffner stiles and bertram the list is to weed out rj and that is what is going to happen as a theory I would love to see van pelt rigsby cho lisbon ron manelli or even jane be rj that would be like wow did not see that coming the list is for entertainment and to mentally make you think about these 7 people and forget about everyone else just my theory

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Tyger Tyger is another occult group  that has fallen out from the Visualize group.
From reading William Blakes poem we can see that Visualize is like the lamb element whilst Tyger Tyger is the more fierce and dangerous Tiger.(both good and evil)
The group consists of the 7 suspects hence the the term He is mar - which means He is Many.

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First, excuse my English, I'm not a very good speller.

My theory:
I was thinking that maybe Red John is a
part of an old secret society with a lot of
powerful people. They all do horrible stuff,
does not have to be murders but just bad stuff.
Then Red John goes "bananas", his killing,
everything. But he warnes the people in the
society to not tell caus' if they do that he will
out all the shit they have done and that could
mean loosing power-positions, money,
respect, going to jail. So they stay silent.
Red John keeps doing what he does.

The closer Jane gets the other men gets more

nervous, so they help Red John in the ways
they can. By now they are not only afraid of
loosing power and such, most of them have
familys, and they know what Red John does
to people, to familys.


Maybe the meeting point for Brett Styles and
Red John was when RJ started at that ranch
with the sign on the wall. Maybe that was the
point where Brett Styles started his loyalty to
RJ - RJ swore to be silent, and Brett Styles
could build his imperium. In one episod Brett
Styles gave Jane a piece of paper with info on
it but it needed to be hush hush and he would
never help him again.

They know what RJ does.

So they are scared shitless now that Jane is getting
closer, thats why they are talking to eachother,
they have everything to loose.
Jane has nothing to loose (Well Lisbon, but will
he stop?) he will keep going, he will hunt RJ
to the end of the world if he needs to.

The whole thing in the mall, it was only a way
for RJ to see what Jane would do. Would he
kill him? Would he cry? Would he let him go?
Yada yada yada, it was only to gain power.

That's what I was thinking.

If someone want's to talk more about this
via e-mail write me at:
real.lovers.write.letters@hotmail.com

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if red john is really on this list and not somewhere else then he's definitely not a 1 person

because the description fits them all and the red john we going to see in patrick's hand before the end of 2013 is just one of the 6/7 

or they all work for redjohn the 7' of them

i believe the whistle thing is just a distraction 


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Hi everyone

I submitted a theory yesterday that my suspect is still Patrick's father. 

I read a lot of theories where people accuse various guys because they fit the profile. When taking into consideration who you believe Red John is, always remember to also look at this from a writing point of view.  Bruno Hellar said that the rest of the season and the next will be about the chase. That means Red John will be revealed, but he will now be on the run from Jane and the CBI.

When you look at it that way, it already kind of excludes Bertram to me. Having the chief of the CBI on the run all of a sudden will not be a very believable story. 

In my opinion, from a writing point of view, it will be hard to tie certain suspects to Patrick Jane's past if they are revealed to be Red John. Like Haffner, Reede, McAllister. What would their connection to Jane be? 

We need to think who will be in the reveal shot painting those faces on the wall or gutting the victims or standing in the shadows looking down at Patrick or Lisbon. It will need to make us say "Oh yeah I remember now!" and if that was someone like McAllister it would just be very weak and disappointing and people would lose interest in the show.

Red John will be someone that draws us into the show until it's end. Not some random character that showed up in the fourth, fifth or sixth season. He was there from the start.

From the 7 suspects, this leaves Partridge, Stiles and long shot (at least for me) Bertram. Yes, I include Partridge, just like Jane included that dead doctor in his list once. I believe that may have been a clue not to dismiss those you think may be dead. 

Off the list, I still think a reveal that Patrick's father is Red John would be epic. From a story point of view, they could argue that Partridge (or one of the other suspects) was his prodigy after Jane. They could revisit the time he spent in Visualize and show him going after Brett Stiles. He could even have a past with Bertram. Maybe also the guy that Jane shot in season 3 thinking it was Red John.

We need to think past the road the writers are leading us down, and look at the mystery from a continuity point of view. Viewers' interest in the show must be maintained after the mystery is solved.

P.S. Did anyone else hear that one of Patrick's doctors once off patients was Washburn/Mashburn? Listen to the phone call with Rigsby again, I couldn't make out if it's an M or W.

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