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RECONSIDERING MY THEORY 

* Kirkland is not for sure RJ...more like a RJ follower.....Lorelei told PJ that he and RJ shook hands but they never became friends....Kirkland and PJ didnt even had the time do became "friends" because he had shaken his hand one episode before Lorelei said that, and one more thing is lorelei couldnt know if Pj and Kirkland did even shake their hands

*Bret Stiles....i couldnt imagine him as RJ because it would be too obvious because of all we know about him, and he is not matching Rosalinds description (and i cant even imagine him and Rosalind togather..i mean she is blind but definitely knows what an old mans face is like), i couldnt imagine him also killing those kids, his voice doesnt fit and i couldnt imagine him helping Patrick bail  Lorelei out of jail- if RJ.

*Gale Bertram...lame at poker, only if not pretending or something, 

*Sheriff Thomas McAllister..Jane tricked him in Rock, Paper and Scissors game...somewhere i read he will be back in season 6 second episode Red-Winged Blackbird...he was easily  tricked by Jane, but somehow all RJ friends were sheriff s or something like that by now... maybe he let to be tricked by Jane and when he was going with Van Pelt he was looking as a maniac to me.

*Brett P....when Pj and BP first met, PJ didnt gave him some big attention...he says he is a ghoul enyoying his work too much...and that he someword him...something like irritates him...also Brett told that he sees the smiley in blood for the first time for real...or something like that...and Jane insulted him but stayed alive...doesnt look so inteligent to me as Patrick but could act the character of BP in the way he does...he could be RJ....and the voices fit...

*Ray Haffner....well maybe he is RJ, to shock us all at the end...and he and PJ were never friends, the age fits, Visualize member (he doesnt have to be on a high place in Visualize, but he can influence on Stiles )

*Reede Smith...HE AND PJ NEVER HAD THE HAND SHAKE! He  is a guest character appearing only in the Season Five premiere so far. Also it's been noticed that his name could be derived from 'Reed' which also means 'Red'. It has also been found that Reede Smith is an anagram for: "the red is me" and "theme is red", which would be fitting were Reede Smith to be revealed as the infamous Red John...also he and PJ were never friends...he most common translation of Tagliaferro is iron-cutter, word to word it would be cut-iron (Cutiron).But another translation of Tagliaferro is ... smith, so Roy Tagliaferro could be translated in english into Red Smith. All this could tell us that by name he could be RJ....but thats too lame to me

So my favourite suspects are bolded out....

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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So...Heller said that we would all be disappointed when they reveal RJ identity...and honestly thinking, everybody from the list wouldnt disappoint me of being RJ...any of them would be so obvious to me once RJ is revealed by something...example Stiles the smart and charming powerful man, or Kirkland who is acting strange all the time, Brett P. the psycho, or any of them would be a RJ to me by something..if you get me what i mean...and they were all RJ to me by something ..who could disappoint us much more than the people that are not on the list of being RJ....the list is there, its legit but what is PJ has an other list?

Please think about RJ as a person who would disappoint you the most...if its from the list or not...think widely!

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I Think Red John is *Not* a Person ... Red john is a clan or a group whatever .. ِThe suspects have the power to control everything and knowing everything about jane and can do any murder in anytime without any mistake .. they have a leader and everyone of them know his role ..

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SUDDENLY, I am thinking it's NOT Bret Stiles.  I just posted about the symbolism I found in 4 of the 7 suspects names:  BRET stiles, BRETT partridge, roBERT kirkland and Gale BERTram -- two BRETS and TWO BERTS -- as in "BRETON" -- a place in France known for King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.   Also, Stiles=High place, Partridge=Noble, Bertram=Knight and Kirkland=Church Land.  BUT I am changing my theory that Bret Stiles is head of the Red John operation or that ANY of these guys have anything to do with RJ.  After looking at the name meanings of RJ's accomplices, I think it may be something much more personal and insidious than the cult leader and his followers. It may involve Grace Van Pelt as "Van Pelt" means son of one of who cures animal hide, a departure from the noble meanings of the other CBI names.  


We know that Red John used alias: ROY (RED HAIRED) TAGLIAFERRO (TO CUT or IRON CUTTER). 
Some of the other character names:
Rosalind (WEAK or TENDER) Harker (TO LISTEN)

Lorelei (SEA SIREN: who leads men to their deaths) Martins (WAR or God of War Mars)

Orville (SPEAR) Tanner (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Dumar or Du (TO BECOME) mar (to DAMAGE or SPOIL/also SEA, or WAR) Tanner -- changes to "Hardy" 
Rebecca (TO TIE OR ENSNARE) Anderson (A MALE)

Craig (CLIFF OR ROCKS) O'Laughlin (LAKE)  

Brenda (SWORD) Shettrick (not sure, but "she trick" is obvious)

Ron (RULER) Deutch (means: OF GERMAN)

Anthony (PRICELESS) Gupta (SECRET)

Miriam (BITTER) Gottlieb (LOVE OF GOD)

Julia (YOUTH) Howard (GUARDIAN)

Jason (HEALER OF) Lennon (LOVERS)

Timothy and Sally Carter (CARRIER OF GOODS)


Gabe (GOD'S ABLE BODIED ONE) Mancini (LEFT HANDED/SINISTER MAN)

Todd (A FOX) Johnson (son of JOHN, which means GRACE or MERCY OF GOD)

James (TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ANOTHER: SUPPLANTER) Panzer (german for: MILITARY TANK)

Malcom & Sandra Boatwright (BOATMAKER)

Linus (FLAX) Wagner (WAGON MAKER)

Erica (FLOWER) Flynn (RED)

Morgan (BRIGHT or SEA) Tolliver (english version of TALIAFERRO: or IRON CUTTER)

Tommy (TWIN) Volker (german for ARMY) 
Walter (RULER OF AN ARMY) Mashburn (by the MARSHLANDS) 

These names all seem to speak for themselves, either literally or ironically




Then there's the CBI people:


Madeleine (HIGH or TOWER) Hightower (DWELLER NEAR THE TOWER)

J. J. (what does this stand for? ) LaRoche (ROCK or DWELLER ON THE ROCK)

Patrick (NOBLEMAN) Jane (GIFT FROM GOD)

Theresa (TO HARVEST or TO REAP) Libson (PLACE NAME in PORTUGAL; LIB means both FREEDOM and GOD'S PROMISE)

Virgil (unknown) Minelli (NEAR A RIVER, IN SPAIN & PORTUGAL)
Kimball (WARRIOR CHIEF) Cho (BEAUTIFUL)

Wayne (CRAFTSMAN or WAGON MAKER) Rigsby (by a RIDGE)

Grace Van (SON OF) Pelt (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Susan (LILY or FLOWER) Darcy (DARK)

Alexa (DEFENDER OF MAN) Shultz (german for: OVERSEER or SHERIFF/HEAD OF VILLAGE)

Luther (german for: FAMOUS/ARMY) Wainwright (WAGON MAKER and REPAIRER)

Kristina (FOLLOWER OF CHRIST) Frye (FREE MAN)

CBI RON (RULER) -- no last name?
Stephen (CROWN) Hannigan (SON OF A LITTLE SLOW MAN)

I wonder if there's a connection between Van Pelt and Tanner, whose names have the exact same meaning


The 7 SUSPECTS:

Gale (GUST or WIND) Bertram (KNIGHT)

Robert (FAMOUS) Kirkland (CHURCH LAND)

Bret (from BRETON) STILES (HIGH)

Brett (from BRETON) PARTRIDGE (NOBLE)

Sheriff Thomas (TWIN) Mcallister (DEFENDER OF MAN)

Reede (RED) Smith (METAL WORKER)

Ray (PROTECTOR or GRACE) Haffner (german for POTTER)


Um, these names are all quite noble but for Reede Smith, which doesn't sound good at all.



There are definitely some repeating patterns in all of these names.  Hmm....

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After "Red John's Rules" (S5E22), I really wish RJ turns out to be directed by Sean Barlow with Ray Haffner, Brett Partridge, and Sheriff McAllister committing the RJ murders.

Sean Barlow is the friend/business partner and later enemy of Alex Jane, PJ's father.  Other than Bret Stiles, SB is the only character with the charisma, brains, ruthlessness, psychic/mentalist skills, organization (see below), and showmanship to carry it off.  I realize this is highly unlikely...  The others--especially the list of 7--are either too obvious or lack credibility by comparison.  (Bret Stiles is the obvious alternative, but is too old.  He also doesn't seem depraved enough to personally revel in RJ's heinous murders.  He seemed genuinely upset at the murder of the female Visualize member who worked on his security team.)

The following was established In "Red John's Rules."  Long with the carnival, SB would know PJ's past, including Eileen Barlow Turner (who SB raised and who RJ murdered), the Carson Springs carny layover location, and possibly Gottleib, the director of the Child Protective Sevices and a RJ friend.  Becoming an enemy of Alex Jane and given to nursing grudges and swearing vengeance, it is likely SB would have pursued vengeance against Alex Jane and his family, PJ.  (As Judge Dellinger in "Red Dawn" S5E5 said, "If you want to hurt a man, don't kill him--kill his family.")  According to PJ's carny friend, Pete Turner, SB is ruthless and capable of killing his niece Eileen.  Since SB and Eileen were with the carnival, he might well know of PJ's "happy childhood memory" first-hand by simple observation.  If not, SB would have had access to the young PJ and, as a psychic and mentalist himself, could have used hypnosis.  Finally, SB maintains connections with Ireland.  He is old enough to have had those connections in the days of the Irish Republican Army.  The criminal/terrorist network that used to fund the IRA is still accused of being involved with bank robbery, extortion, smuggling, and counterfeiting.  Were SB involved, that would give him a criminal network with international reach and connections to other criminal/terrorist groups.  In the past, the IRA was involved with the PLO, Quadafi's Libya, FARC in Colombia, and the Basque ETA.  As part of an international criminal network, SB would naturally come in contact with disturbed and/or criminal men, and would have opportunities to identify and recruit allies in police departments, the CBI, the FBI, and Homeland Security.  So SB would have the personal traits plus the organization and resources to do many of the things RJ does--murder, favors for friends, infiltrate law enforcement organizations, and pursue vengeance for decades.

As for PJ and RJ, Sean Barlow could personally commit the RJ murders.  But I think it more likely he is the brains of what is now the RJ criminal organization, with others doing the actual murders.  Ray Haffner, a self-admitted "troubled kid," would be my guess for committing the RJ-style murders at the Red Barn farm 25 years ago ("The Red Barn," S5E13).  The murders are now done by a group of similarly-twisted men--perhaps, Brett Partridge and Sheriff Thomas McAllister as well as Haffner.  Why Haffner?  He is the right age to be at the farm.  His height, build, age and hair are credible relative to Rosalind Harker's description.  Haffner has extensive links to relevant organizations--former FBI agent, former CBI Senior Agent, and past/current Visualize member (Red Barn farm link).  His background in surveillance would equip him to access various computer networks and spy on those pursuing RJ.  So Haffner could have murdered PJ's family in reaction to his TV comments about RJ.  Knowing PJ was likely to become a prominent psychic, SB could easily predict PJ would work with police and comment on famous killers for the publicity--thereby securing the vengeance SB swore to exact.  The SB-Alex Jane-PJ-RJ connection thus comes full circle.  Note that tormenting PJ is personal for SB, too.

The lurid RJ murders stand out, but there are also ordinary crimes.  Todd Johnson ("Red Moon," S3E9), the RJ friend and EMT serial cop-killer, may have killed some people for reasons, not just arbitrarily.  Todd Johnson's archaeologist friend Montero ("Red Queen," S3,E16) was a gun-runner to Central/South America for terrorists and dictators (FARC in Colombia?).  Finally, Bosco's team was working on an international drug cartel case when Rebecca murdered them at RJ's direction ("His Red Right Hand," S2E8).  Yes, RJ wanted PJ back on his case, but there could have been a monetary interest in disrupting the drug cartel investigation as well.

Connecting RJ to ordinary crime as well as psychopathic murders provides the resources for his activities and links to other criminal and terrorist organizations, domestic and international.  That could provide a legitimate reason Homeland Security and the FBI to be interested in RJ.  Gale Bertram and Bob Kirkland could be working together for legitimate law enforcement reasons.  Kirkland asked Bertram whether "we" could trust Lisbon.  If they were RJ friends, why would they ever think they could trust Lisbon?  Conversely, if they are working on a legitimate investigation, that comment might make sense in that they are concerned with PJ being compromised by Lorelei ("There Will Be Blood," S5E16).  (BTW, I find it intriguing that Bertram has a plaque for bravery in his office ("Strawberries and Cream," S3E23).  That seems incompatible with him being RJ.)  If Homeland Security and the FBI are investigating several international criminal/terrorist organizations, they may have split it into several smaller investigations to protect the larger effort from being betrayed by one leak or one bad agent.  Kirkland's interest in Lorelei and his act of killing Lennon could have been motivated by protecting the larger investigation (shaky, but ...).

The Mentalist would be well-served by broadening it beyond just RJ and the CBI murder-of-the-week, especially if (the main) RJ is caught in season 6.  I personally would like to see Bertram gone (killed being brave?!), Lisbon promoted to his position, Cho promoted to unit head, and Jane occasionally working with the FBI and Homeland Security on international criminal/terrorist cases.  With all that change, PJ and Lisbon could pursue a personal relationship (Jisbon) while preserving enough change and tension to keep the series new and interesting.  Like I said, unlikely but interesting to speculate.

If you got this far, thanks for spending the time to read all this! 

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