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Not accusing anyone, just a side theory.

Before Patrick's family was murdered he was helping the "police" with the RJ investigation.  We never know who the "police" are but you are lead to believe it is the Sacramento PD (You are lead to this because in season 5 episode 5, "Red Dawn" when it's a flashback and Patrick first goes to the CBI to look at the RJ files Lisbon says the files were transfered to them a few months ago from Sacramento PD).  
2 points:

1) I think it's very strange that no one ever mentioned Patricks work with the SACPD (or other police) prior to his work in the CBI.  Wouldn't Lisbon be able to figure that out?  They seem to ignore that part of his past.

2) I bet RJ was the one that got Patrick a job at the CBI.  RJ made sure the files were transfered there (knowing Patrick would eventually come in) and made sure he got a job there.  Minelli's and RJ's first meeting did seem awkward/tense and Minelli was extremely open to the idea of Patrick accessing the RJ files.  This points to Virgil Minelli being RJ or working for him but I defintely don't think he is RJ.  

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I would just like to test my theory and see what people think.......

Ok. So, Jane and his family and his Wife's family are all part of the carny life supposedly. They are circus folk but not as Jane mentioned fully (carnies) although we saw in one of the episodes of Jane's flashback life that Jane's Father had been a con-man, and Jane (boy wonder) was part of his Father's coning spree (eg. the sick little girl and the healing jewel or stone.) I'm thinking that given the view of Jane's Father being angry in the episode (and seeming slightly abusive) after Jane walked away not wanting to con the girl, I am thinking Jane's Father Alex was upset that his "money maker" left him for the woman (Angela Jane) that Jane fell in love with and they both ran away to get married' perhaps after that Alex jane swore revenge to get even on Patrick for leaving him alone. Though the one thing that doesn't add up is that if it was Alex Jane who killed his daughter-in-law and granddaughter, why would he inflict that tragedy on his innocent granddaughter? well...we haven't heard of or seen Patrick Jane's Mother (did he even have one?) (was he adopted?) just an idea. Perhaps Jane's Mother was born of the carny life or not form the life, maybe she met Alex Jane (who may or may not have already had Patrick) and the were due to be married or married (or maybe they had Patrick as a couple) and perhaps Jane's Mother (if he had one, which I would think either way) perhaps she didn't want the life of a con-carny for herself and Patrick her baby that she decided to break up and leave Alex Jane, although Alex wouldn't let her have his son because Alex knew something about Patrick Jane that the Mother didn't know of. Also too wasn't it mentioned in Red John Rules that Patrick spent a lot of time in the Child Service Center as a child? anyways I could just be going off and not putting things together but I feel like some of this theory could be the truth. Also too it would be a play-off of Angela not wanting the same life of a carny that perhaps Patrick's Mother didn't want also, perhaps because it would be dangerous for their children?? Perhaps Alex Jane was so angry after Patrick left that he begun to kill people, anyone, brutally, and maybe he came across visualize? just an idea, maybe he left the carnival? never went back, and swore to track down Jane, and make him suffer in the harshest and heartwreching of ways, also maybe the leaving of Patrick's Mother caused Alex to have a break down and he became crazed because he thought, Patrick was the cause for the departure of Patrick's Mother and maybe he didn't want to see his son happy when he was anything but! also this could be why Red Joh doesn't kill Patrick (when he is this close to) and then explains saving him (form the copy cat crew) it's like something inside him is pulling away because it is his son. Haven't you noticed how it's always someone eles murdered and Jane never get injured??? I think that means something...besides the game he is playing.....

So when you think about it some of it adds up. Also if it is not Alex Jane, then perhaps it is someone else who is a part of the carnival life and maybe Patrick was supposed to pay them back for something, remember what Patrick said? "Carnies are good people, but make sure to pay them back" or something along the lines of this.

Also Bruno Heller has been taking us back to the carnival for a few of the past episodes and now all of a sudden he is bringing the audience back. ....is Heller deliberatly trying to throw us off???

Also I don't know if anyone remembers or can explain this but just a question.....remember in the episode where Patrick Jane sees his Doctor (Sophie Miller) ? we'll I still can't understand this....in a flashback to the Mental institution where Jane was being kept and Sophie was his therapist, it shows Jane sitting on a cot-bed and on the wall isn the Red John smiley! I don't understand, am I missing something? was there a murder in the Mental Hospital?? or is Jane drawing the mark!? and why is it in Patrick's room of all the other rooms??? 

Also one last thought......I know it has been conformed that Red John is for sure a man, although it very well could be a woman. Think about it.......Heller seems to like to confuse the heck out of us, so why couldn't it be a woman? besides after seeing that seen when RJ saves Jane I sear I saw high heeled boots! and the hands look femmine.

Also I don not trust that "legit" list of the final 7 suspects! that was deliberate! I don't think any of them are RJ! 

So these are my theories.....

True or False...........?

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Just to mention, the actor who plays Brett Partridge - Jack Plotnick, was born 1968. So practically, he is 45 years old and looks much younger as he actually is.


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Who would you call Red John? The killer, or the master brain? If your RJ is the killer, then I believe that we will not wait too long to have him in hand. But if you refer to the master brain behind all this puzzle as Red John, then we will have to wait till the end of the show. Because I still believe that there is one killer and one instigator. They will first give us the killer and we will realize that it's not over yet and there's a bigger picture. Then shall come the real deal.

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I'd like to ask some questions this time just to help you raise new theories if you somehow happen to reach new findings out of these:

1- Jane and Sheriff Mc Allister playing paper-rock-scissors. Both looking into each other's eyes. And tell me the odds someone winning 6 times in a row. Or better tell me the odds someone loses 6 times in a row looking each other's eyes (normally you look at each other's hands to predict the next move). If you're a good face-reader, I may accept the reality that you can win most. But all???

2- Jane's hallucination of his daughter. Why was it his daughter only? His wife was not worth to hallucinate? Why did his daughter ask him if anyone knows who he really is? He says Lisbon. What does this mean?

3- Rebecca gets killed walking towards her cell by some mysterious man using poison. Everyone here thinks that he was RJ. Maybe he was just a random disciple of RJ but Rj had hypnotized Rebecca in a way that she believed she will see his long-lost love as a gift after killing Bosco and his team which she can only notice by a sign (a badge, flower, etc.) and maybe that was why she kept smiling like she was in a dream when she saw that man coming. Isn't that possible?

4- Everyone says that Heller is placing red herrings and false clues within the show and his interviews. Nobody thinks about the possibility of him lying about the idea "Maybe I casted RJ already" ?

5- Does anyone else think that Rosalind Harker may not be actually blind? What would that lead us to?

6- The "Higher Path" RJ was talking about is just a strange way of perceiving the world / life or some complex plan of some sort?

7- Does anyone deny the truth that Visualize is the center of all the RJ phenomena? What facts do we know about the mission/vision of Visualize? Anything concrete? Does it serve to some master plan or is it just a bunch of people came together fooling themselves with actually becoming super-humans by clarifying their views on life and thinking? What's the barn's true involvement? 

8- Isn't it odd a man like Tommy Volker personally drives to the address with the contract killer where the kid he wishes dead lives in?  Was it because he was processed weakly as a billionaire in terms of his capabilities or there's something else hidden in this?

9- Everyone from Jane's past was shown us in their current situations but his father seems to be intentionally hidden. Don't you think so? If you do, why?

10- Jane's brother in law was introduced to us (maybe the only living link to his family life) but it was just like in and out. Never mentioned after. Do you think he will play a role in the future as well? 

11- If we accept the truth that the smiley represents Jane's face and it was drawn on the barn's wall 25 years ago by RJ, then shouldn't we come to a conclusion that RJ and Jane knew each other for longer than most of us think? Wouldn't that lead us to a single direction in our theories?

12- If we happen to believe that the smiley actually belongs to Partridge (the famous scene on 5x22), then why are we waiting for? Let's just hang him.

13- Many theories about Kirkland: Being an Rj accomplice, being Rj himself and seeking revenge from RJ. Does that guy even know himself what he's doing?

14- Doesn't it smell fishy that PJ takes the CD from the lady and not Lisbon does as it is an evidence and only agents can handle evidence. But Jane appears to have it like he says "I saw it first" and destroys it no questions asked. If those questions are not asked at the beginning of the 6th season, then can we think that Lisbon has a purpose in letting him do it?

So far that's all. You may write your comments/answers by indicating the question numbers. Thank u all...

 

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wouldn't it be so great if Red John killed all the people on the list,  just to prove Jane's wrong

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-e_rjzdrzE

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