THE LIST IS FAKE.

I'll explain why.

Patrick mentions the number of people he's met and shaken hands with since his wife and child were killed in 2 episodes: The Red Barn and Red John's Rules. And the numbers don't match.

In The Red Barn, he says he's met and shaken hands with 2164 people since Red John murdered his family, whereas in Red John's Rules, he says he's met and shaken hands with 1357 people since the killing. Rewatch the episodes and see for yourself!

Patrick is well known for having a great memory, so he couldn't have just messed up the number by about 800 people. He and Bruno Heller are full of crap (as usual): the list he made is fake and probably just a decoy to drive Lisbon off, since he knows she's not good at lying and he probably wants to protect her - the other possibility would be because he doesn't trust her and this is all part of a plan to fool RJ himself too (read the fake list theories here for a much better explanation than mine). I'm 100% sure he made up numbers out of the blue to make Lisbon think he was being extremely precise, when he actually was just putting an act.

Remember what happened when the LaRoche tupperware situation. He had no idea LaRoche even kept a tupperware in his safe. He was bluffing.

This is exactly why we can't trust anything Heller says! 

I believe the REAL list is the one we saw in Black Cherry (S05E09), pictured here: http://i.imgur.com/365SVvV.png

According to Bruno, the list is legit.  But there's something that doesn't make sense about the seven suspects. Jane is someone who has an eye out for everything. He catches things that others don't see and always find a loop hole in a case which leads him to identify the murderer.  What I can't wrap my head around is, all the clues that have been dropped throughout the seasons, how did he come up with this list?  

In the episode where the Sheriff turned out to be working for RJ and says that him and his dad were friends which indicates he's somewhat older.  How does that fit Partridge for example?

According to evidence, RJ may have been part of visualize, and trying to get the age right, it rules out Gales and Stiles.

Something isn't adding up and I'm not sure what it is. But these clues, are things that Jane would not be that dumb to make a mistake in judgment of the suspects.  He's far too smart to make a mistake or oversee a detail.  Especially with this RJ, he would we would be 1000% (yes thousand) sure before coming up with his final list.  
 
So is Bruno stringing us along?  Are there other suspects? Is the list legit? I'd hate to think that the writers fumbled and were not cautious with how it all add up.  Also would hate to think that some clues were false to throw us off track. That would suck.

If I had to guess, my bet would be partridge but because of the sheriff's dad and RJ who were friends, I don't think so because the age doesn't fit.

I love how it's really making us think!

A lot of interesting theories out there. I'll give my take on the list of seven and then tell you who I believe to be Red John. Enjoy!

1. Bret Stiles- Probably too old to be Red John, but I feel he will be involved somehow; if not because of the Visualize link already established, maybe because he has a family relationship to Red John or a tie in to Jane's circus past. Stiles could be Red John because of his power, wealth and mind-controlling abilities. He would definitely have the resources and network to do the things Red John can do. Additionally, the message that Lorelei read did have a striking resemblance to the way he speaks. All that said, I believe him when he says he knows more than Jane or Jane's friend John could ever possibly know (The Blood on His Hands). Stiles truly believes in his cult and its message, and I don't think that message is about murder, although I could be mistaken.

2. Gale Bertram. Bertram is a very intriguing possibility to me. Before he first meets Jane, he syas he is anxious to meet the "Boy Wonder." Hardly anyone refers to Patrick as the "Boy Wonder" except for people that know of his circus past. That could simply mean that Bertram read Jane's personnel file thoroughly or he is related to Jane's former life. Furthermore, he very casually drops a William Blake poem in a season 3 episode (I believe Red Queen). Only Red John associates, Jane, Cho and JJ Laroche ever mention Blake (Cho and Laroche only in reference that they know of the poet's work). Now that could be a red herring or it could be a unifying theme for Red John/his followers. Also Bertram's position as CBI director, along with his influential friends could give him the access to the vast network of resources needed to pull off Red John's crimes with almost no traceability. However, I am going to pass on Bertram as Red John and instead place him as either Red John's right hand or high ranking associate.

3. Ray Hafner. Although he only appears in 2 episodes, Hafner is a strong possibility for Red John. In the 2nd episode of season 4, he comes across as a bit over-matched by Jane, but it is mentioned that he has excellent surveillance skills. If he is Red John, Hafner's surveillance skills could be how he seemingly stays one step ahead of Jane at all times. Stronger evidence pointing to Hafner would be his ties to the Visualize farm. That is where Red John supposedly gets his start and Hafner fits the profile of someone who could have been on that farm as an early member of Visualize. His time at Visualize most likely gave him the necessary mind-controlling skills that RJ would have to possess to carry out his attacks and control such a vast network of minions. All strong evidence for Hafner, but I believe he is a clever red herring because I don't see a tie in between him and Jane's past.

4. Reede Smith- I am not surprised at all to see Smith on the list. For only appearing in one episode, he comes in at a crucial time. His most important scene to me is when Jane mentions that Red John's followers all carry a red glass bead on them. Smith doesn't casually or nervously laugh, he more laughs out of amusement and the absurdity of Jane's notion. What does he know that we do not? While I would find the back story on how Smith became RJ intriguing, I don't feel there is one. Instead, I'll classify him as Red John's friend in the FBI.

5. Bob Kirkland. This guy practically screams Red John. He first appears in Red Dawn in the back of a limo showing his approval to Alexa Schultz for informing Minelli of Jane's past psychiatric issues. Why would he care? Kirkland's overall creepy vibe, his constant wearing of red ties and his keen interest in the RJ case are strong indicators that he is Red John. Most importantly, though, is the line he says to Lisbon about his past. Bob states that he was always on the move because of his parents. To me that suggests he was in the circus, just as Jane. Could Kirkland possibly be the son of Sean Barlow? Is that why Barlow tells Jane that RJ has "special powers" which keep him a step ahead. Maybe, but I'll say no, Kirkland is not Red John and he is meant to throw people off the scent. Or he is and he is there to make us question why the writers would make Red John appear so obvious to us. The twist in the context of no twist, so to speak.

6. Sheriff Tom McAllister. Here is a real chin-stroker. If RJ appeared before season 3 as some of the writers appear to have stated, then he would be a brilliant candidate.  He has the law enforcement background that it appears RJ has. Let us hearken back to the season one finale and RJ's friend Dumar. Dumar states that RJ was friends with his father. Was Dumar's father also a sheriff? If so, did they have a special law enforcement bond? Let me also point to the season 4 finale. After the ending shootout, a police car goes whizzing by Jane and Lisbon. If you slow it down frame by frame, you can see an officer in the car that looks very similar to McAllister in his lone season one appearance. My theory is that he was keeping tabs on the situation from his squad car and then high-tailed it out of there in the chaos of the shootout. While he doesn't appear to have any background with Jane and Jane's family, his last name is Irish. My guess is that we will find out that McAllister is related to the Barlows, has a long-time grudge against the Jane's and was a past member of the circus somehow. Don't let his seemingly simple-mindedness fool you, I am sure that the sheriff has the mental acumen, resources and network needed to be Red John, something that season 6 will reveal to us all. Red John is Sheriff Tom.

7. Brett Partridge. Partridge is a definite possibility as Red John. He shows up very early in the Pilot and has an intimate knowledge of how Red John kills his victims. There would be some interesting symmetry if the writers introduced us to Red John at almost the same time we are introduced to Jane. Partridge does irritate Jane and Jane mentions (in the pilot episode or the season 2 finale, I forget which) that there is something off about him and the enthusiasm for his job. What a perfect job to have to clean up your crime scenes and tie up any loose ends. While Brett doesn't outwardly display any of the mental traits required to be Red John, I'm sure they could be revealed in Season 6 if necessary. The same could be done to tie him to Jane's circus past, although I feel that would be a stretch and as such, I don't believe he is the best RJ suspect on the list.

The best suspect on the list and my pick as Red John: Sheriff Tom McAllister.

I think that Red John is not one person. For me it is like a stage name of not-one person. It fits for 3rd/4th season where he kills 'him' and we know that the game with 'him' won't stop. There are less than ten I think people connected with Red John. I bet 3, not sure if could be 4.

Massimo De Ambrosis

Hello again. I made several theorys on who's RJ and my three suspects are CBI Ron (not in the list), Virgil Mineli (not in the list) and Brett Partridge (in the list)


What I'm thinking now is everything about the happy memory.

This is not really a theory accusing someone, just exposing a thought I have.

We know that Jane was in a mental institution. He could have been observed and treated by someone. That someone may have had a lot of covnersations with Patrick, and maybe that person knows memories of Jane, because of the therapy, right? He could have exposed his memories, his problems, etc.
That person that helped Jane, may be RJ or one of his puppets..

We also know that Bob Kirkland knew that Patrick was on one mental instituion before, so he told the FBI girl to call Virgil Mineli to tell him that.

Is Kirkland RJ? Or one of his friends?


Other thing is, In this season, Jane created a historic of events and RJ killings, to create a list of suspects. I think Patrick Jane knew that someone related to RJ was going to try to steal his historic of events, so I think Patrick made mistakes on his work on purpose. That's why he smiled when he noticed that someone entered his room to steal information. So that way he knows that the person that stole his historic (Kirkland) will not make a correct list of suspects. So if Kirkland work or is RJ, he created a wrong list based on the information he got from Jane.
So Kirkland can be RJ or one of his puppets..

Now, the thing is, I think Jane has a list of suspects (a correct list), and RJ has the wrong list. So RJ thinks that is one step ahead of Patrick, but Patrick is ahead of RJ.

What you guys think?

I thınk red john is Patrick's father , on 5th22 we know red john know about Patrick's children memories, and on 5th22 , we know all Jane's are psychic. There is no information about Jane's father.