Hi All ,

I just have a few questions to ask. 

What if the suspect list by Patrick is a trick to fool Lisbon!

Maybe he finally realises that the key to catching red john might lye with Lisbon maybe he fooled her into thinking Red John guessed his seven suspects. She has been acting very suspicious in the last few episodes. Also in the scene where Craig O Laughlin is shot he could have killed Lisbon but he shot her in the shoulder a cop missing from that range it was harder to shoot her in the shoulder than in a place that could have killed her. She said to Patrick i have dark secrets that u could never imagine. Somethings just don't add up we all know how intelligent Patrick is he left the toothpick on his door. Heller is not going to tell us that a big twist is coming maybe he is playing us all.

Lots of things also don't add up with Lorelei no gun shoot wound on her dead body and no bruises on her face like in the video did they just dissapear?

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130401032803/thementalist/images/b/b2/Lorelei_Martins_death_...

You can clearly see that from this image here.

I was just wondering if i could get other peoples thoughts on this. Please comment

It is impossible that Red John knows about the only happy memory from Jane's childhood and about his list of 7 suspects, so there remain just 2 possibilities:
- Red John is Jane himself
- Jane made the video with Lorelei himself and lied about his connection to the dead woman. He probably knows the victim from childhood, but lied about his "Happy memory".

If the second possibility is true, why is Jane doing all this? Why is he lying to Lisbon? I think that Red John is nobody from the list of 7 suspects. I think he just wants to get rid of Lisbon by telling her some lies to investigate in calm in other directions.

I think the whole premise on which the list is based is wrong. Patrick is considering only those people who he shook hands with after his family was killed. But he could have met red john way before any of it  even started. From the list he made, none of the suspects are the "mentalist" kind. They don't have the same skill set as patrick. Red john is his nemesis and has to be very similar to him. Frankly speaking he treats all  of them with an air of superiority and if any one of them was actually red john...he would have found it insulting considering how touchy he is! 

I think that Patrick made that video with Lorelei.  There were a few things that were a little off about it:

-The absence of Red John in the video.  Lorelei read the whole note herself.  Red John did not hand her the note, she picked it up herself.  The camera seems to be set up (not being held by anyone).  It seems like Patrick has set it up so that he leaves no evidence that it was him making the video.
                --why did Lorelei have to read Red John's words?  wouldn't it be much more powerful if Red John read them himself?  wouldn't he want to scare Patrick a little bit by being in the video (and wouldn't it have made for a WAYYY better episode if the fans got to SEE Red John on the video!!?)

-The destroying of the CD.  After watching the video with Lisbon, he destroys the CD in disgust like he's baffled and frustrated by it....but REALLY, he destroyed the CD to get rid of any evidence that would link the CD to himself making it.  (and it was easy to pretend like he destroyed it out of anger and frustration in front of Lisbon)

-This one has been brought up by a lot of people:  The foster home lady being let go in the back of a police car with no other supervision, no more questions, no sense of urgency....Whenever there is somebody linked to Red John, Patrick is OBSESSED with talking to them and finding out EVERYTHING that he can from them to get closer to Red John.  With this lady, there was none of that.  No sense of urgency, not a lot of questioning, no follow-up...the only tricky part is that they showed her swallowing a pill at the end....If she was a part of Patrick's plan, why would she kill herself?  Maybe she didn't kill herself...they didn't show anything after she swallowed the pill, so who knows...

-All of the "reaching into Patrick's mind" stuff is a little strange.  I don't know how Red John could have had the exact 7 names (there are some possibilities), but it makes me think that it was really just Patrick giving the names to Lorelei to read...

There are, however, a few flaws and holes in this theory of mine:

-How would Patrick know that Red John is going to kill a happy memory of his?   Did Patrick use the assistance of some of his carnival friends to pull this off?  Maybe that woman who died had NOTHING to do with Patrick's past, but he used it as a ruse to fool Lisbon and everybody into thinking that Red John was one step ahead of him and in his head.

-If Patrick made the tape with Lorelei, then why is she dead and why did Patrick say that she had it coming to her?  Maybe after they made the tape, she still felt compelled to go kill RJ?  Who knows...


Personally, like many of you, I was pretty upset with the Finale...We didn't see Red John at all, or hear his voice, it was just finding out the 7 names...Nothing else was exciting about it, or gave us much new information...They tried to make it interesting with the "Reading Patrick's mind" stuff, but that just confused everybody.
Hopefully the way that they explain everything next season will be exciting and informative, but I was pretty disappointed with season 5 overall.  From the stories, to the 2 or 3 week breaks in between new episodes, to the lack of Red John...I just didn't like season 5 as much...
When does season 6 start?

Red john is patrick jane's father

My wife walked through the room the room the other day while I  was watching the show and she commented that maybe Red John is the butchy red haired chick.  I assumed she is referring to Grace.  She bases this on a half assed watching of about 3 episodes of the Mentalist and no other evidence.  I believe this is about as plausible as Red John being BOB from Twin Peaks making a modern day appearance.  My guess: Sheriff McAllister.  He is the only suspect I can't truly eliminate with rational facts.  So little is known about him, the writers could make everything fall cleanly in place.  I also picked Mitt Romney to win the last election and the Redskins to make it to the Super Bowl and win last year.

I do not understand at the 5x22 Lorelei Martins said:
"You've changed the game,so there's new rules now". What game has
changed before 5x16?What rules was there? Rj made a mistake and RJ
started to create a list.Rj always wanted to play a game with PJ, why is that anger?He let for PJ to get closer and closer.

Lorelei read: "Until you catch me...or I catch you". It is nothing for RJ to catch PJ.Why have to kill more people to catch PJ?

I
think- as I sad earlier- there are many many irrelevant information,
their only purpose is to deceive you. Many things are dead ends, nothing
more.
If finding RJ only depends logic and skills of good observing, we already know who RJ is.

Lot
of deceiving things, for example: Do you remember the episode when
there was an another psychic who was PJ's client earlier?PJ ask if he
was the killer and he sad no.But when he left he touch, he rub his ear.
So, if someone knows about body signs a bit, he knows that is a sign of
lie. And guess what, he was not the killer.And it was one example.

Conclusion:
you cannot see things in this serie as they really happened. I bet if
somehow RJ shows his real face, at least 50% of the fans said:Oh, come
on, it cannot be true because...