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Red John is NOT Brett Partridge!  It's too obvious.  The writers have given themselves a lot of room to define who Red John is and they can choose anyone from Jane's list of suspects, anyone on the CBI team, and they can choose someone new.

If the what the writers are trying to do is create a surprising and enjoyable ending to the series, they won't choose Brett Partridge, because he is probably the most obvious "bad guy" available.  He's a misdirect (probably an homage to Psych's Mary Lightly, who was also creepy but innocent).  That's why it's unlikely that the writers will choose him when they decide who to make Red John.

The identity of Red John will probably depend on how "artististic" the writers of the show think they are.  If they fancy themselves Hitchcocks, then Red John will be either Patrick Jane, Lisbon, Van Pelt, Rigsby or Cho, just because they would want to surprise and shock the audience.

If they suck at their job they'll choose one of Jane's suspects from his list.  One thing that would be essential to the finale would be Jane's sense of shock at who Red John turns out to be, and you can't have that if he turns out to be on Jane's list.  So, assuming that Red John isn't on Jane's list, then that leaves the CBI team, a lot of females (who he said was unlikely, which makes it dramatically more likely for the writers of the show to choose), and lastly someone we haven't met yet.

So my proposal is that Red John is either a CBI team member (
Patrick Jane, Lisbon, Van Pelt, Rigsby or Cho), another female on the show (like the CBI press director), or a completely new person.

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This is not a theory and im not accusing anyone here.
This is for the admin(s) of the site.
There are certain glitches in the site. for eg Bob Kirkland has been added very recently to the list of suspects. But there have been a lot of theories in which he was accused before he was officialy put on the list here. So these theories are now null and void as they have not been counted as theories against him. Work on this please. This is probably also true for other suspects.

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I am not really sure...

What if Lorelei has never met the real Red John? What if she has just met another one of his minions?  We really don't know for sure.

Why are people adding people in as suspects that don't matter? i.e. Grace's dad (what does he have to do with ANYTHING), Lisbon's youngest brother...

Are people so desperate for a solution that they will include characters that have NEVER been on the show? Lisbon's youngest brother has never even been mentioned by name...come on people...really?

I love the idea of speculation but stick to stuff that makes a modicum of sense...

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Well here are some of my thoughts.

Personally I think that Sarah may be part of red Johns "crew".
I think that possibly Wayne's baby is really Red Johns baby so he can have some leverage on the CBI somehow. Please don't rage at me. LOL

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I would like to "pick" your brains ...
If you could, i would love for you to give me your suspect and the reasons on the coments ...
Tell me just the reasons that we know and try not to assume any thing ...
Besides ... don't exclude anyone ... The main idea would be to collect suspects, motives and "proofs" or circumstances ... And then organize it ...
Then we would try to exclude the suspects with facts (without any assumptions) ...
And then maybe, together, we could be able to get a reduced group of suspects ... a "top 7" (Red John - 7 letters) ...
:D hope you agree to help me

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"First I want to express my disappointment if it turns out that PJ has two personas and one of those is RJ.  I also truly hope that the story line does not involve PJ and some sort of psychotic break.  It will be a travesty if the series concludes with either of these endings.
    
Just some notes and observations...

Rosalind Harker - If one were to shorten Rosalind to Rosa (Rose) one would find another writing by William Blake titled "The Sick Rose".  Google and read the poem.  It could be a hint that Red John is real (not her) as well as being Rosalind's boyfriend.
 
Many people (most) believe that in the season four finale, Red John sped by in a LVPD Police Car.  Well, when PJ is in the Limo and is greeted by RJ's voice, PJ first hears "Debonair at all costs...".  If you notice in the seen where the CBI/FBI teams drive by, the street sign reads Debonair St.  Which means that RJ may have been present in the area during the limo interaction.

In circa 1988 the Bloody Smiley Face (Watchmen Style) was quite popular in the house music scene.  Acid House music to be specific, which has often been described as hypnotic/trance-like and mind-altering music due to unique beats.
  
Also of note, the Galle Crater on the planet Mars appears in the Watchmen graphic novel.  The crater resembles a Smiley Face.  There is a Watchmen movie titled "fearful Symmetry".

There is a convicted killer known as the "Happy Face Killer".  
There is also "Smiley Face" murder theory, where alleged murders are believed to have been committed by an organized group of killers responsible for over 100 deaths.

So that got me thinking more about the name Red John.
  
Revelation 6:3-4
3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”
4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.  

The book of Revelation was written by John.  Thus, Red Horseman = Red John.

Also of note is the words "Its rider was given power" may indicate that RJ was given the power by someone greater than RJ. 

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Let's play a game. Guess who you think the se7en suspects of possibly being me are by the season 5 finale. Closest one gets a cookie.

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My guess of who Jane will suspect are:
1. Brett partidge
2. Ray heffner
3. Ellis mars
4. Walter mashburn
5. Teresa Lisbon
6. Everybody high up in visualize
7. Amos van pelt

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