'Now look closely this is important, do you recognise me?'

Was Jason Lennon hypnotised years ago to protect red johns identity? And the tap on Patrick's shoulder at the end of that scene, Kirkland has got to be massively involved now.

At loreleis death scene he turns away and smirks as Patrick sees the damage done.

He threatens Lisbon when she starts her investigation into volker, which still hasn't been explained yet, Patrick kind of recognised his voice after he had crashed to help lorelei escape a few episodes ago.

When Patrick and Robert 'first meet' its almost a relief for Kirkland when Patrick says 'do I know you?'

I used to hate the idea of him being red John and I may still be proven wrong but the evidence is piling up now, it's hard to argue against, the only other explanation is that he is red johns right hand man.

After watching last nights episode. I believe Rob is Red John. 

I think Red John has hypnotized Jane to forget him, I think he met Red John/Rob on the carnival.

Think about it? 

When Lorelei was murdered who was there? Rob. She was murdered in a place full of carnival things. Hello people.

Then when he first met Rob at the CBI Patrick says "Do I know you?"

If you watch the clip from 4x23 or 24 when Jane is in the limo with Lorelei listen to the voice especially when he calls him Patrick and so does Rob they sound very similar.

Going on the conversation Rob has with Jason he could very well be Red John, however when he gave that drug he wore no gloves so the finger prints would be on the drip right? 

Also, when he said to Jason "Good, your mind is clear." this is something a hypnotist would say. 

Secondly when Jane arrives, and he asks him what happened. After he says "He said nothing." he taps Patrick and the arm and walks away, Jane turns and looks on as if something is triggered.

Yes Rob is very much a suspect now.

Thoughts?            

Just some notes i've been playing around with if you're interested and can perhaps piece it together more, you're welcome.:D
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Remember in the episode when Red John is on the phone in the limo with Jane, he says luckily I have a friend in the FBI so I found out when they found out
Kirkland is that friend, NOT Red John himself
This can easily shoot down any other theories that say Kirkland is

This episode was interesting.

Robert Kirkland and Jason Lennon chat:

RK: You are one tough SOB Jason Lennon. You really are.
JL: Where am I? What happened?
RK: You are in Sacramento, you got shot. Do you remember that?
JL: Yes I do. Lorelei Martins.
RK: Correct, very good. Good, your mind is clear. Now listen, I have a question for you Jason, look at me. Look close. You recognise me? You ever seen me before? 
JL: No.
RK: Are you sure? It's important.
JL: Yes. I'm sure.
RK: It's good to know. Thanks.
JL: Who are you?
RK: I'm a friend. Let's face facts Jason. If you recover, and live, you'll spend life in prison for murder at the play thing of monsters. I just hope, that if I am ever in your shoes, I have a friend close enough to do this for me.
JL: Wait.
RK: Don't be scared, this'll be quick, with very little pain. It's okay, it's  allright. I am here for you, I won't leave you.


I would like to analyse this.

1) When Kirkland says that he is a tough son of a bitch, it is very informal and as if he knew him before. You just dont say people that they are a tough sob when they are shot. You gotto have a history. Maybe you already know that he is tough, or just figure of speech.

2) Look at me, look close. Are you sure? It is important. And then, after taking a breath, which is like a relief, he says it is good to know, thanks. 

Now, Jason thinks he hasn't met Kirkland before. But obviously, they have met. But why is it important? He is going to kill the guy no matter what, so whether Jason knows Kirkland or not is not not related to any crime. It is personal.  It is more of a confirmation for Kirkland that Jason can't recognise him, even though they know each other.

3) I am a friend. Not I am a friend of Red John. A direct I am a friend.  So, Kirkland was a friend of Jason.

4) I just hope, that if I am ever in your shoes, I have a friend close enough to do this for me. He considers himself as close to Jason, he is a close friend of Jason.

I believe, that Kirkland himself is Red John. I have always considered him as a friend of Red John. But after this, I think it is him.

My Theory: RJ had a surgical operation to change his face. Why else would he ask Jason to look closer at his face and tell whether he recognises. He is gonna kill Jason, why else would it matter whether he recognises him or not. If his close friend Jason from years ago can't recognise him, surely this means the operation is a big success. Nothing to worry. And since he doesn't want his friend to spend his life in prison, he does Jason a favor and kills him in a painless way.

The question is, why did Kirkland change his face? I think he had an important role before this, possibly he was PJ's friend or relative, and only this way it would shock us and everyone. In fact, in flashbacks, we might have seen previous face of RJ.

I present this theory as my major theory. If this comes true, I will post this link and tell "I told you". Of course, in the future, I may be proven wrong but from this 2 minute chat, this is what I get.

Red John is known to be a showman just like Janes dad from the circus. They have a similar skill set which is obvious because Alex Jane trained Patrick. It was revealed that Alex Jane bordered on physcopathy as he conned the desperate without a second thought. People often forget that red John needs a motive for killing all of these young women and something influences his obsession with Jane. He kills the young woman because they resemble the woman who he believes stole his son from him. It is relatively obvious why his father would be obsessed with his jane. I would like to know if anyone has info to disprove this. It along with a team member or Jane himself are the only endings that contain a big enough twist to really make everyone be stunned.

stop stop stop, why are there so many theories on Wagner wen he's in Jail? Red  john isn't an organization, it wouldn't be a very good ending if PJ is seeking vengeance on a 100 people, that would suck. so yeah it's not Wagner guys! and writing this i had to choose a suspect, i realized that dr Steiner's there, what? He's dead too, so is wainwright!