I think Red John is Dr Montague.

Firstly, she works with FBI. This might help her to follow her friends closely.

When Patrick Jane shook her hand in the episode, the camera was very willing to show us the handshake.

The bloody writing in bathroom says: "He is Man". It can be misspelled by the victim.

Partridge and Stiles are way too obvious and Minelli is....just stupid.

Red John is Patrick Jane's father, Alex.

If you read through William Blake's poem, the tiger, you will realize that it is the same creator, the same god that created both the terrifying "Tiger" and the innocent "lamb". They stand so much in opposition to each other that it is tough to believe that they were created by the same hand. This relationship is not unlike the one that Jane had with his father...("Carnies are good people, but you're either with them or you're against them...there is no middle way" - Patrick Jane / "You're a loser, or you're someone who plays the losers" - Jane's father)

In the series' pilot, you will see that John's main accusation against Jane is that he is a "cheap imitator". Sounds like something a disgruntled father would say. (Also indicative of the fact that Jane and John are from the same line of work.) ("Alex, meanwhile, played the role of the showman, due to Jane's superior reading powers" - The Mentalist Wiki) ("Red John thinks of himself as a showman, an artist" - Patrick Jane)

Think of the scene where Jane and his dad are conning a dying girl and Jane hesitates...Jane himself was not exactly the most pleasant of men prior to the death of his family. And to be honest, his father seems ten times meaner/cruel/cunning than he could ever be. ("Thy fearful symmetry" - Red John - Evil, cunning, spiteful. God as manifested in the "Tiger" in the form of Jane's father / Jane - Sympathetic, redemptive, sensitive. God as manifested in the "Lamb" in the form of Jane)

Ultimately they are both divine, just in different ways.

I could go on.

Honestly folks, it might well be PJ himself or TL. But some time ago a thought crossed my mind that maybe Patrick's wife is somehow not that dead... and involved in the whole thing. It would be a very typical Hollywood-ending if PJ's wife was still alive and they'd either reunite at the end of the series (when Red John is killed) or we find out that she is Red John or one of his (therefore maybe PJ's) disciples...

okay, Red John it's not Grace Van Pelt! but THERE IS darkness around this girl recently! oh fucking yeah" for sure!


I do believe that GVP is Team RJ

Alrighty, its good to be back on the site! Last time I was here Scarlett and RedJohnisDr.TowlenMorning had some nice ideas and I thought we did some good work. I hope you guys are well.

Since then I've read the posts, not much new or interesting. I did like RollTide's analysis of the handshakes, nice work! Like I've stated before, PJ is not huge on handshakes. Gloria's post on the character development of GVP, was a lesson in solid detective work, well done! However, GVP isn't RJ, he's a man! I refuse to believe she's even in cahoots with RJ. I also refuse to read any more theories about RJ being PJ, PJ's bother in law and PJ's dad. Enough already! Guys like Stiles, Partridge, Mashburn, Kirkland OK I get it. People got a right to their opinions and we have still have much to learn about them. However, GVP and the Jane family tree just isn't happening folks! I thought James Thompson's  attempt to track down southpaws was really clever. However, drinking tea with ones left hand doesn't exactly make you left handed. Drinking tea isn't like hitting a baseball and when RJ kills Janet Peaks the flash back is a right handed cut. So maybe RJ is left handed maybe not but I admire the creativity of the detective work as opposed to some of the old regurgitated hogwash we get around here! 

We didn't get much form this Sunday's episode. Osvaldo Ardiles (he's on the list) showed up but gave us nothing. We don't get any new episodes till next year, bummer. So here's what I've gleamed from this weeks TNT replays.

1) An episode with Gale Bertram, (Red Alert), lots of good quotes form Gale. Makes it seem likes he got real pressures from above. Combine this with his William Blake poem quote (Red Queen) and his strange phone call before PJ set him up and the same paper as the fake RJ (Strawberries & Cream) and it sure makes it look like Gale is up to something. It's almost like he is emulating his boss, as flattery, well all know people that do it. I still think the AG or higher up is evolved.
 
2) This "AG" theory also gained some weight in (Red Brick and Ivy). PJ has to help his former Doctor (Elisabeth Rohm) out of a possible murder rap. A few lines point to her having enough juice to get the "DOJ" (or AG) involved to make sure PJ is on the case. She also states she has got a thing for "controlling and damaged men" and that she has "demons" herself. The PJ is RJ theorists will use this episode to point to PJ's break down and split personality possibility. However, if you dig deeper and dismiss this theory, there's some good evidence that a sub plot is playing out. 

3) CBI Ron: I've stated before that CBI Ron looked somewhat suspicious. Last one seen with Luther Waynright (Crimson Hat), flees the parking lot when GVP and Jane are being chased (Bloodshot), seen talking to Craig O'L (Bloodstream.) Someone even posted on here, that he was the one guarding the door when Christina Frey went missing (I haven't confirmed this.) However, in (Red Box) he is put in charge of watching the suspect from Scotland yard, the suspects punks him! Gives him a black eye and escapes! I don't see RJ getting abused like this, even if he wasn't into the assignment!

4) Dean Harken from the lab in(Code Red),he's on PJ's list of possibles. Jane is specifically put on the case. The Doctor calls him up and states "I heard you were the best detective in the state."  They do shake hands. PJ states that Harken "irks" him (PJ uses this same term to describe Brett Partridge.) Harken threatens to call his friends in the FBI to remove the team from the case. Still, there isn't to much that would make you think he is RJ. He's a bully but a lousy investigator. PJ is clearly smarter then he is and tricks him good into catching the killer.

That's all the notes I have this week. Hope we can use the time off from new episodes to find some more new good clues!! Keep watching and keep thinking (something other then its GVP) :)  !!

Danny Ruskin - Agreeing with all points made by a previous comment maker with regards to this suspect, but would like to add one point...

I have always been convinced that 'he is mar' literally meant just that - (Synonyms: blight, blotch, defect, deformity, disfigurement, excrescence, excrescency, fault, flaw, imperfection, blemish, mark, pockmark, scar).  In one scene where he appears his eye is watering even Jane remarks upon this.

This episode just jumped out at me, the only thing that has held me back is how does he have connections within fbi and cbi? He kind of fits the bill for all other clues

Red John is Alex Jane,Patrick Jane's Father.

Red John is most likely a man
He is a white person as described by Haley
Red John has an average height: Rosalind described him as "just under 6 feet tall"
Red John has short straight hair (as described by Rosalind Harker)
Red John either has or puts on an odd, high pitched and soft voiceRed John should be older than 30 years (since his murders date back to the 90's)

Alex Jane is a man,white,can be under 6 feet tall and has odd voice.
Patrick Jane left him to start a new life with his wife. Why dont he kill Patrick when he taunted him on TV? The reason is because he is Patrick's father and he loves him. Like Bret Stiles say, Red John has a form of love with Patrick Jane. His dad must love him so much because Patrick is the only thing he has in his life. James Panzer, who is also known as San Joaquin Killer, get killed because he talk bad things about Red John. Why did he kill James Panzer and why he did not kill Patrick Jane? Why he kill Patrick Janes family instead? It is because Red John has some kind of obsession with Jane. He wants to keep Jane alive to play mind games with him.

The poem that Red John told Jane is The Tyger by William Blake from the Song of Experience. William Blake also wrote The Lamb from The Song of Innocence. What he is trying to say is that Patrick Jane is the lamb and he is the tiger. Alex Jane is the experience and Patrick Jane is the innocent.Red John is shown to be more smarter than Patrick Jane. Alex Jane teaches Patrick to be smart as he is now. He knows Patrick Jane more than anyone else. That is the reason why Red John is always one step ahead of Patrick Jane.

Sorry for my bad English,English is not my First Language.