Who is Red John?

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Ok that last post WAS EPIC!
This changes the game and brings this site back...
So i ask you who is red john?

I am going with my Alex Jane is Red John and Lorelie's step dad.
Marcus Pike is a follower possible too.
Of coarse i think Styles will return, that man did everything right to fake his death..
He even said he will resurrect like jesus and the show never even mentioned Visualize after ep 8.
Rj is anti Ba and somehow related to Visualize.
And you know i still got faith my girl Gvp and Rigsby and involved...
Their exit was an odd one, dont you agree?

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The show returns in November !
Called it!

Been thinking about Lorelie and how she said Rj is just like Jane.
Macalister is so far from Jane its plain to see.
Someone else is out there that is just like Jane.

And how she said it too with so much anger....
Didnt sound like a girl talking about her cult leader, right?
Rebecca Anderson would never reveal any disdain for her God.
She also said Jane was just like Red John but in a nice manner.
No Lorelie sounded like she was talking about a man she knew personally, her Father.
She has major dad issues thats why she linked with Jane..
She went for a guy just like her dad.
Also everyone can see Lorelie is different from all of Rj followers.
She is trained and not a robot pawn.
Rj has used every follower of his in the show as a pawn thus far.
Leaving them to be killed...
Not Lorelie, she was special.

Alex Jane could of had a son named Robert Kirkland...
Alcoholic Alex Jane created a monster in Robert..
Thats my second very slim slim theory..

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This site will never die!!!!
Its just slow bc the show is on a very long hiatus but
when it comes back this site will be cool again.
Cbs pressured this show and ruined it.
But this year they have nothing to lose.
This is the only show ever that has a chance to end as the greatest of all time
Or simply just ehh its a good show.
Why not go out with a bang?

Being it an encore season i see them bringing back some old characters;
Erica Flynn is a definite but i could see Styles, Freye , and Lorelie coming back.
I mean Lorelie was found in a carnival setting with the words ALIVE written on a picture clear as day.
Styles died off camera and Lisbon hinted at his return as well as the actor who plays Haffner.

My slim chance theory...
Rj or the mastermind behind red john is Janes dad.
Janes dad is also Lorelies step father.
Lorelie met Rj when her step father came into her life..
Miranda met Rj when she was reunited with Lorelie and met her step dad.
Then the Ba Killed Miranda because we all know Rj does not rape people.
Lorelie and her Step dad aka Alex Jane devised a plan to take out the Ba with the help of Jane without him even knowing it.
Long shot but either way i am gonna watch, season 7 needs to get here fast!

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Wow what a dream i just had.
It was one of those dreams when you wake up you still think its real too..

It was a Mentalist commercial or episode and the show was on Fx!
The rest is blurry but i know Red John was discussed and there was curses ! But unfortunately it was all a dream..

But seriously if this show was on fx the whole time the it would of been great.
Baker is even on record of saying that if it was not on Cbs they would of liked to make the show pick up each week where the last show ended really digging into the Red John story line.
Which is funny because the show does seem like a bunch of cool shit happened off camera.
One can only dream..

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So does this mean they are gonna explain how Agent Fischer found Jane in Mexico yet Abbot her boss had NO IDEA where Jane was on the island? U would think she would of been the first person he called once he arrived on the island but no. Did he even know she was there ?

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My last hope...
The last hope for a great season 7 is that they already covered everything.
The series finale has to be crazy and suspenseful and if they already had Jane and Lisbon get together what else could be so crazy?
Now it could be them getting married but shit i hope not. Or cho but i doubt thats enough for a series finale .

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Just read a great theory in reddit from about 8 months ago...

It says that Rj was a drug addict who had a child a baby girl.
This baby girl was put in foster care because of Rjs drug issues.
Rj goes to the Elliston farm and gets clean.
He draws his first smiley face in tribute to his daughters face.
He kills his first victims and begins to streak...funny how he killed only red haired women at first and painted their toe nails. Maybe he was doing this because in some sick way his victims were his daughter in his eyes. (Thats my theory).
-His daughter is Grave Van Pelt. Grace was obviously in foster care that is almost proven in that one episode i brought up the other day. She was later adopted by Amos.
Now this theory writer then says for some reason Rj found Grace and was unhappy with Amos and how he treated her so he killed him. Maybe he even let Grace watch because this is the crazy traumatic thing that happended to Grace that she never told ANYONE. "Not even herself" Jane.

Now this theorist then makes a case for Cbi Ron being her dad. I dont buy this simply due to Rons age.
But he makes a compelling case. Ron is always there in weird places.

I think the poser was dead on here tho check out..

"RJ loves/admires Patrick Jane. He, therefore, doesn't want to kill him but become friends. In S06E01, after their little heads-up in the desert, Brett Patridge is scared by Jane. Patridge fears that Jane knows about the "Blake Association" and asks the "Blake Organisation" (BA) to kill Patrick (Patridge is a forensic guy, he doesn't carry , or doesn't even own, a gun..). Red John hears the information (whether directly because he's a member of the BA or indirectly because one of his disciple is a member, remains to be seen...) and has the urge to protect Patrick. Patridge put Patrick's life at risk- so RJ kills him. RJ tough has a problem. He thinks that the BA wants to kill Patrick- but he doesn't know who exactly is a member of the BA. Specifically, he doesn't know if Lisbon is a member or not- he has to figure it out. His plan is to lure Lisbon to a place, forces Patridge to say "Tyger Tyger" (maybe Patridge has a family and RJ threatens to kill them unless he says Tyger Tyger before he dies) and observes Lisbon's face / reaction. Due to her innocent reaction he realizes that she is not a member of the BA and lets her alive (he has to get out of the house tough, so he has to paralyze her). S06E02: The BA is worried about what PJ knows- the heads (Bertram, Sheriff and Reede) of different parts within the BA (e.g. CBI, FBI, others..) hold a meeting to discuss their current situation (Jane interrupts and then we hear Reede Smith asking "exactlyhow much does he know"- this question, though, is not about RJ but about the BA). Betram doesn't know but they assume that Patrick doesn't know much / nothing, decide to cut Patridge's tattoo away and to observe Patrick a bit better. S06E05: Reede Smith is highly uncomfortable with the situation and hires a private investigator (PI) to bug the CBI room. Jane finds it out and falsely assumes it was RJ. But: RJ would not need to kill the PI, RJ doesn't leave any trace. If RJ hired the PI; then the PI would not know ANY usable information. Reede Smith, on the other hand, isn't too intelligent. The PI knows information that point towards him- so Reede has to kill her before the police gets her. He's in a hurry, only wears his uniform and his duty weapon- which he can't use. So he takes off his suit (so blood spatter can't be seen; yet he doesn't know how he will kill her) and chokes her in his undershirt- giving her the possibility to see his tattoo. S06E06: The BA still believes that Patrick doesn't know about the BA, but finds it weird that he invites three of them into a meeting (no one knows that the PI told Patrick about the tattoo..)"

I like it especially about Tinsely being hired by Reede Smith.
That clears up the clumsiness of that escapade to me.
I am starting to buy the Cbi ron stuff because wow is he suspicious.
The poster says these points i have even said before...

1 rj was cleaning his knife with both hands during the phone call to Patrick.
We just assume he made the call. Great writing if true.
The EXACT SAME SECOND Rj calls Jane Cbi Ron walks past Jane and Uses his phone right before he cant be seen on camera.
2. Ron was walking to the hospital to protect Jane from the Ba.
His WHOLE team besides Lisbon and Jane were at Cbi.
There was no reason to show him at all!
3 copy cat killers way back when nobody knew where Jane was going but Jane did explain all HE KNEW to Ron and the team. Meaning Ron went there to kill them bc like Jane he figured it out.
4. Agent Darcy and the Morgue Murder
Jane and Darcy talk privately in the kitchen yet Ron was right there listening !
Darcy tells Jane she knows he brought Rosaline Harker to see Carters body blah blah ha ha.
5. Wayneright murder. We all can figure this one out.
Rj finally thought his dream was coming true. Jane was going to be his bff and really killed Lisbon.
BUT RJ finds out its a lie and gets pissed and to show his balls he kidnaps the highest ranking official and does some boss shit. We all saw.
BUT we all saw as Wayneright met Darcy and found out Rigsby wasn't really dead who is there?
CBI RON! WHO ELSE COULD OF KIDNAPPED WAYNERIGHT IN A MANNER OF MOMMENTS!
THIS IS THE BIGGEST CLUE OF THEM ALL BECAUSE WAYNERIGHT WAS FINE AND SAFE MOMENTS BEFORE THE LIMO EVEN PULLED UP AND HE WAS IN CBI OF ALL PLACES TOO!
The only person who could of saw what happened with fake RIgsby and have the time to kidnap Wayneright was Cbi Ron! Crazy stuff right?

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