Who is Red John?

Theories of Stoopkid (369)

This is the first time i ever put Macalister as Red john
on this site..

I dissed Heller for how the show turned out
but i was so wrong.

First off, secret groups whithin law enforcement
and politics are as real as day!

The whole image of "serial killers" in our society is a lie..

Monsters like Jeffrey Darmer or the Zodiac Killer are not serial killers.

They were the low life handlers that delivered victims to their bosses..

Satanist and Pedophillia cults are rampant in law enforcement and elite circles.

Red John was never a serial killer

He didnt have an M.o.

And we know this bc he killed more people on the Mentalist in
different ways than he killed by his apparent m.o.

She lured girls in vegas to join red john.
A pimp or "madame" you can say..
Red john controlled her not because he's magic..
Its trauma based mind control not some trick..
Rj manipulated Lorelie by exploiting her past traumas..

Ok how did Red John guess Janes list..

It was a trick like Jane said

How hard would it of been to fake Lorelie's death?
Rj owned the police!
And if you watch the scene where Jane finds her body..
1)she has less injuries than she did in the video
2) she showed no wounds and only had a white sheet covered in blood draped over her
3) the crime scene was shady in itself and police presence was minimal.

So rj kept lorelie alive and used her
He knew Jane was getting close so killing Lorelie right away would be stupid for him..

The Ba are aleister crowley "do what thou will" type of dudes..
Above God
Which is parellelled with Visualize Stiles type of thinking..

Only Rj left Visualize after the barn in 88'

He started selling meth like that episode implies..

And remember when Macalister , Bertram, and Reed Smith are all having a meeting together?
It was a meeting about "getting meth off the streets in Nappa Country"


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Satanic Rituals and mind control..
The only person who could mindfuck Freye like that was Stiles..

"My dear chap, I know so much more than you or Red John could ever imagine"

Frye was the only character that fit two big Rj criterias for me..
1) obsessed with proving her powers
2) obsessed with Jane to the point where she HAD THE SAME EXACT JOB!!
Talk about feaeful symmetry right? She literally was a cbi psycic...
She also talked to Rj on tv like Jane..
She also described Janes fams death to him..heartless..
I think Stiles gift wrapped Rj for Jane and destroyed her mind..

BUT the Ba is something else....
If you research serial killers enough you realize that most times it was really a sex trafficking operation thats covered their tracks by creating a false narrative of some "loner" dude..
Like Timothy Carter, prominant "good guy" with a sex slave..
Guy from ep 1 that copycatted RJ, he seemed like a elite pedo who got kids from his africa trips..

Seriously, son of sam, dahmer, Gacy, etc were just the dudes who would deliver the child or girl to the cult members...

Stiles either was boss or wanted to take them down..
The BA and Macalister werent serial killers, they were pedofile sex trafficking people...
Especially in Cali!
Lorelie was a sex slave turned vegas recruiter..
Thats what these people do, they kill your sister then trauma base mind control you..

**big point here..
Kinda weird that Stiles just so happens to die at the same exact time that
he is in hiding from the fbi...

Meaning we have no idea still what happened that night, jane had a gun who the fuck threw a concussion bomb? Lol

Stiles faked his death that night..
He was prob in the car leaving janes house when lisbon was arriving...
How he pulled it off i dont know but no way he was in hiding from the fbi, dying of cancer, and magically blown up in the process...
No way..too convenient..

Freye could of been BA too but i think she killed Janes Fam..
Bertram knew Red John was Ba!!!
Said hes top brass but didnt say the boss..
Plus how can Bertram know whos top what if nobody knows whos who...

I think in the end Stiles used Jane but also led jane to the dirtiest group of law officials ever...
Stiles wasnt petty enough to kill Janes family..i think Freye was the only one insane enough to be petty as RJ was...

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Whats up everybody!
Long time no see

So i havent seen Simon Baker in an shows or movies so i bet he is taking time off with his family...
But just like Brett Favre who retired like 12 times and came back to football, Baker is gonna get bored and have that itch for acting again...
Maybe hell have other roles...maybe not..
But the fanbase is still very much alive and devoted..
If a new network wants to throw some money Bakers way to bring back the Mentalist,
You think he will take it?

People swear up and down the show is done and it most likely is...
But this is Hollywood and money can do magical things sometimes...

"So Simon, how about we bring the Mentalist back, this time with no Cbs or Bruno Heller calling the shots"
What do you say??..

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Hannibal season 2 OMG!!!

The Mentalist should have been just like this show...
Jane hunting a killer with everyone questioning if Jane is in fact the killer since their so much alike.
The dialogie on hannibal is perfect and really shows how two people can change eachh other like Red John and Jane.

Hannibal loves will, we deff didnt see that love in season 6.
We didnt see anything actually.
Styles could have been on Janes side helping him hunt this monster Visualize created....
But no

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I honestly think this is the first show in history where the antagonist was falsely revealed and it was left up to the audience to surmise who he was.
We all know Macalister was not Red John for 100 different reason
The biggest reason is that Macalister is NOTHING like Jane.
And we learned by two people that Jane and Rj are two peas in a pod.
Could Red John of walked out the back door with nobody noticing ?

*Red John loves Jane more than anyone on earth.
Rj taught Jane a lesson.
Played a game with him.
Then used him to take down the Ba.
Maybe the Ba did something to piss Rj off?
-Red John from the very beginning was leaving breadcrumbs for Jane.
It all started with the poem tiger tiger...
The way all the clues fell on Janes lap...Partridge, Sophie Millers tapes, Lisbon Spared, Kira Tinsley, etc
Leads us to believe someone was leading him this whole time...

My favorite example of this was the Dumar Tanner Rosaline Harker episode.
Red John wanted Jane to meet her.
Wanted him to see the smiley.
Wanted him to read the letter.
And wanted him to learn about Roy Tagliaferra...
When Jane thought he was getting closer he was really just where Rj wanted him...

So in the end i guess since Rj loved Jane so much he decided to give him what he wanted. A red john of sorts...
Red John tied Macalister up nice and neat with a bow for Jane.
Ending his hellish sad excuse for a life filled with regret from the death of his family.
Even the usb was planted there for cbi to easily find...

Maybe Jane being of split personalities left himself clues.
And in the end killing Macalister also killed Janes alter ego ?
Ehhh prob not...

But anyway who do you think snuck out the back door?


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Ahhh formermale our favorite troll of them all...
Listen Bro saying Macalister is Red John isnt YOUR THING.
Everyone knew thats who the show picked because we all saw it!
It doesnt make you smart or special to say "i told u it was him".
It makes you an idiot.
This site is for Red John theories.
So thats what we did even tho it was highly unlikely anything would happen.

Your just some guy who felt like being a dick.
We all chose roles on this site, the skeptic , the conspiracy theorist, the sad, the angry,
and of course, THE TROLL.
The people who only came to the site so START SHIT.
So now that the show is done, for now, we all go back to our normal lives
And you go back under your bridge. As a troll.

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Well that was weird.

Everything has been weird since the reveal.
The people who work for the show spoiled every twist and turn possible.
The RJ reveal was in the promo.
Bruno Heller doing a thousand interviews that i read on some weird Christian website.
He literally told us what was going to happen and that they pulled Red John from their ass.
Seriously what creator of a show built on mystery spoils his own shit?
Red Johns done, he isn't coming back , Nobody liked the Rj story line, Jane moved on, all chance of RJ return is not happening don't worry, things are going to end happy, here is a promo of our series conclusion a week in advance in case you were wondering if the characters will survive. We wouldn't wanna build SUSPENSE OR ANYTHING!!

Even weirder that they chose to recreate the show only for one short season instead of doing the Red John stuff right.
New characters and new setting, they even added a new member to the team in the finale!!! WHO DOES THAT?
Are they selling themselves to another network?

This season reminded me of Burn Notice and definitely could be on USA.
The "MENTOR alist"? Jane training some young gumshoes?
Or maybe "Red John the college years"...so we can learn about a guy who was as powerful as the president who let it all go away because he wanted to mess with some guy who called a serial killer a monster over a decade ago.
He decided it was the right time to "confront" Jane when his gang got CAUGHT and his EMPIRE WAS CRUMBLING.
He let Jane expose the tattoo clue about his people and ruin his life's work...... All so Jane could hear tiger tiger from a few people and only then he could shoot him after Jane pretended to think Bertam was Red John?!?!?!?!

Confession: There is a part of me who was happy watching the finale.
I knew nothing was going to happen so I just enjoyed it for what it was.
Seeing CBI Ron dance and Cho give fashion advice was enough for me.
Jane being a damn good con man and reading all those people on TV.
Pulling a MCguiver with the bubble gum making it a bomb.
Seeing Abbot talk cracks me up i don't know why.
He is just too damn smooth. 
Even though Patrick Jane is a tragic character and it should of ended differently,
i was still happy to see him happy after all these years of hell.
He was a great character to watch and i will miss his antics.

Been a pleasure sharing theories with all you out there.
We had wayyyy better ideas on here than real life and thats a FACT!
To all the trolls, inside your jacket pocket is a dead mouse.
It smells like dick cheese mixed with rotten fish and it will linger inside your pocket for all eternity.
No matter how many times you wash it the smell will be there. Alive.
Use a fabric softener it doesn't matter, that dead mouse is leaving his mark. mark.


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