Who is Red John?

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I'll save the bragging about being correct for another time and place, but I wanted to add a voice of opposition to those people who are appalled by episode 8.

Firstly, it is real. Of course it is. It is not a fake decoy episode.

Secondly, what we have seen is raw and silly because it still needs editing. I am quite sure they will edit out the silly voice Gale uses as he dies, and will make other changes in editing (such as RJ body clearly breathing heavily after he is supposed to be choked to death). We will get more and better atmospheric music, better cuts, some new bits added etc... That is the point of a raw cut like this, and that is why editors get paid the big bucks.

Thirdly, I really enjoyed the episode. I thought the writing was good, and the storyline makes complete sense. Remember what we know of RJ. Remember what we know of serial killers. Why indeed does RJ kill Jane's family?? -- because he kind of nailed the analysis when he first went on TV and described him. Ultimately a pathetic lonely guy seeking approval. RJ needed to be psychopathic, but not a psychic. He needed to be hugely powerful, but not in a position of obvious power. He needed the physicality to sneak in the shadows, to travel around the state without arousing suspicion, to actually live a double life. The others suspects would have tremendous difficulty with this (save for one or two). What we have seen all season is an unravelling of RJ as Jane got closer and closer to getting him. We know RJ has gone from loathing Jane to respecting him, perhaps even admiring him and wanting to befriend him. This fits 100% with what we saw of STM over this season. He exhibits every trait. He fits broadly within every description. He is perhaps 1 inch too tall - but that is within the window of believability. He has thinning hair, but 5 years ago it is conceivable it was a little more lush. He fits all the descriptions of Miller. He fits the physique of the sneak peaks we have seen of RJ. He is sinister, aloof, clever, and always had an air of calm about him. He nailed the detective work in the Napa episode - and demonstrated his uncanny sense of smell - which is a crucial clue.

I loved how we learn he is a pathetic man who desperately tries to stay alive. He has lost his network, his power - the other heads of his dragon. He is finally alone. It is just him and Jane (and perhaps 1 or 2 other desperate female devotees). He plans his final victory. To have the world think Gale is RJ, to fake his own death, to kill Jane, and to continue into his next chapter. But this time Jane is one step ahead. He has almost known since the rooftop of the church in Napa that STM is RJ. But he needed more certainty. We see Jane looking deeply at the Pidgeons in episode 2 (with the Partridey looking lady) - he is piecing it together. He knows what RJ will do at his house (and he plans the gun he will later use to wound RJ right from this moment - presumable the family gun he had once bought to protect his family - symbolic). He knows after this that the bomb was theater - and this leaves only STM in his mind as RJ. But he needs to still find a way to get him, and this is not certain yet. He does, however, know that Bertrum is his ace in the hole, and how he can use him to lure out STM. In fact, ironically, both RJ and PJ are using Bertrum for much the same purpose.

We see Patrick in the park again with Lisbon, surrounded by Pidgeons, and this is likely where he gets the bird for his final trick. It seems shocking that he smuggles a bird into the church like he did, but remember that Jane is carny folk - and this kind of thing for him is child's play, I am sure.

Ultimately, I found the ending very poetic and very genuine. Jane didn't want answers to RJ's tricks - he didn't want him to have any joy in his game. He simply wanted RJ to die, to know why he was dying, to know that he made a mistake when he targeted Jane's family, and to regret ever doing it. He acheived this exactly.

Fourthly, there has been much discussion of Visualize and Stiles. Remember that one of the arching themes of the Mentalist has been Janes iconoclasm and the fact that he champions skepticism and the denial of religious mumbo jumbo. The show plays with this theme too. Visualize is a cult, and is there to show that ultimately it is theater and lies. Stiles was the epitome of this. A showman full of hot air and no substance. When he claims knowledge of RJ, he is doing what all clergy do - trying to bolster his mystique and authority through lies. I wouldn't put much stock into the lack of a Visualize connection with RJ. It was a good misdirect by the show's writers, but it is much more satisfying to me that RJ was just a man with delusions and uncanny power; and not a man who had all the attention and success he ever needed already. The dangerous narcissist is the one who knows deep down they don't have the success and loyalties of people who love them. STM is perfect.

Finally, many of us on here are so well versed in the Mentalist universe that we find this ending to be without much twist at all. But to 99% of the audience, this is a twist and a great reveal. Furthermore, it is somewhat faithful to the notion that Heller wasn't going to screw with us too much this season. Somebody dies, they stay dead (except for STM!). The tattoo clue - was genuine. The phobia - genuine. Gale always acting goofy and clumsy - genuine. We get a pretty straight forward narrowing in on who RJ is, and but for a bomb deception, we don't feel like Heller gave us a nest of lies and deceit. I like this. If a TV show demands all it's viewers be super sleuths with hours per day to investigate theories online, then it will be a 1 season wonder.

My only real issue is the gunshot in the house. Was this supposed to be the sound of the concussion bomb? If so, then it makes sense somewhat. If not, then what happened?

As for all the other clues, they reconcile. "Roll Tide" -- sure, STM was simply stalking them at lunch listening in, and had abducted Frye by then.  The "he is mar" - well, this could be so many things. Perhaps it was even RJ himself scribbling something as a misdirection. Not a big deal. How he knew the final list? well, there are a dozen explanations - and perhaps we find out in due course.

I am satisfied. And I think the episode was pretty exciting and compelling. In fact, I sat there for an hour just smiling silently when it ended. Then again, I had predicted STM, and had guessed the majority of what transpired, so I had reason to be happy. But I won't lie, at one point or another I literally suspected every one of the 7 suspects, and that just means it was good writing. Bravo.

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TRUTH BE TOLD, i still think the biggest clue of all is the interview with the unnamed actor who played Red John in 6.08.

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I wrote this in a comment earlier today, but it deserves it's own post:

Many theorists are failing to take into account something of
staggering importance. No actor has known that they are (or will be) Red
John until the very final episode of RJ with the reveal, which was
recently filmed. THEREFORE, every single voice recording we have of RJ,
and every single sneak-peak of RJ (be it in a mask, or holding a cup of
tea, or in the shadows) has been using an EXTRA actor (or a voice actor)
with no intention of them being RJ ultimately -- just to film a
specific scene for purposes of the show. THEREFORE --- we can not, ever,
take into account what a voice sound likes, what a hand looks like,
what a body shape seems to be, what a shadow looks like etc... from
previous episodes. It is completely false information. The show (Heller)
has been abundantly clear about this in interviews etc. So, please
disregard all evidence of voice samples and the like. They mean nothing.

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1. Hand is exactly the same, with that diagonal vein popping out.

2. Hat on couch explains bomb:
  - Brought into the house in his hat
  - Exploded on couch, killing Stiles and Haffner
  - 3 Blake members were on the far wall lined up - and those three were furthest from the blast, hence they survived. Smith was barely hurt (until shot by Lisbon) and Bertrum not hurt at all. So it stands to reason that McAllister was not hurt much either. How could he be blown to a charred non identifiable million pieces, but was standing right next to the other two that were unharmed?
  - DNA evidence likely also planted within his hat for the cops to find.

3. Pidgeon in the church during the confrontation between McAllister and Jane. This may have something to do with McAllister extricating himself from that situation leading to the big chase, ending in the park with the final RJ killing.

4. other pictures from promo show person who looks most similar to McAllister

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Extended Promo:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-mentalist-episode-608-red-john_18.html



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Important points:

1. Red John knows about the phone bugs. Jane has no doubt about this and
says so, so why should we as viewers have any doubt that RJ knows about
the phone bugs. If he sets a trap for Lisbon as part of his killing of
Partridge, he would obviously leave his bugged phone at a different
location. The location of the bugged phones on Lisbon's computer screen is
therefore not a clue worth paying attention to.

2. Bertrum's weirdness at the beginning of this episode can be ignored. Heller is not so stupid to feed us obvious clues like this. As usual, this is just classic narrative spicing. Each episode he will likely make a different suspect a little more suspicious. Ignore.

3. Partridge may not be dead, but he is not the person who attacked Lisbon. The door to the bathroom opened while Partridge was on the ground bound with packing fasteners. Whomever attacked Lisbon was either RJ himself or an accomplice - but clearly not Partridge. I would very highly consider Partridge dead, and I see no reason for Heller to be so deceitful about this. In the post-mortem interview with Heller, he clearly states that RJ needed BP dead at this stage of affairs to complete his grand plans. We should try to understand why this is, rather than consider that BP faked death in an elaborate 2 man operation.

4. RJ holds the bloody blade used to cut BP in his left hand as he wipes blood from it with his right hand, and then smears the smiley face on Lisbon with his right hand (or so it appears). This may be a clue.

5. The room with the 7 pidgeons in it, and with 1 flying out -- this is a clever cinematic device, but if this is indeed the "clue" that Heller refers to, it is weak sauce to say the least. In fact it does nothing but tell us what we already know and are just finding out -- that there are 7 suspects, and now less 1. Are we meant to conclude that RJ is planning a really cool murder scene - so he lures BP to a condemned house and to kill him, and also goes to the effort to plant 7 birds in a room to be a cool metaphor for the 7 suspects in the assumption that Lisbon (or later Jane) opens that room and counts the birds and thinks how clever RJ is?? ... to me, this is just clever (or perhaps wanky) directing by Heller as a 'wink' at the audience. It surely holds no significance.

6. Not really a major point to think about, but it's lucky that right as L is about to open the bathroom door, BP makes a groan in the closet so that she goes there instead. Had she opened the door she would have seen RJ and would have been killed by him (no way he can let her live then), and then the whole Partridge element of the plan would have been wasted. Lucky that BP groans? I guess so.

7. BP saying "tyger tyger". Was he told to say that? Not possible. Most likely this poem was recited to him by RJ as he was killing, binding, and forcing him in the closet. So it is the only clue BP can think of to tell Lisbon as his dying utterance. We must assume BP never sees RJ, as RJ would never let this happen or he could just i.d. him to Lisbon as he dies. RJ must have planned for BP to be able to say a few final words to L and wanted to plant the "tyger" clue deliberately.

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