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Grace Van Pelt

Grace Van Pelt
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Well that was weird.

Everything has been weird since the reveal.
The people who work for the show spoiled every twist and turn possible.
The RJ reveal was in the promo.
Bruno Heller doing a thousand interviews that i read on some weird Christian website.
He literally told us what was going to happen and that they pulled Red John from their ass.
Seriously what creator of a show built on mystery spoils his own shit?
Red Johns done, he isn't coming back , Nobody liked the Rj story line, Jane moved on, all chance of RJ return is not happening don't worry, things are going to end happy, here is a promo of our series conclusion a week in advance in case you were wondering if the characters will survive. We wouldn't wanna build SUSPENSE OR ANYTHING!!

Even weirder that they chose to recreate the show only for one short season instead of doing the Red John stuff right.
New characters and new setting, they even added a new member to the team in the finale!!! WHO DOES THAT?
Are they selling themselves to another network?

This season reminded me of Burn Notice and definitely could be on USA.
The "MENTOR alist"? Jane training some young gumshoes?
Or maybe "Red John the college years"...so we can learn about a guy who was as powerful as the president who let it all go away because he wanted to mess with some guy who called a serial killer a monster over a decade ago.
He decided it was the right time to "confront" Jane when his gang got CAUGHT and his EMPIRE WAS CRUMBLING.
He let Jane expose the tattoo clue about his people and ruin his life's work...... All so Jane could hear tiger tiger from a few people and only then he could shoot him after Jane pretended to think Bertam was Red John?!?!?!?!

Confession: There is a part of me who was happy watching the finale.
I knew nothing was going to happen so I just enjoyed it for what it was.
Seeing CBI Ron dance and Cho give fashion advice was enough for me.
Jane being a damn good con man and reading all those people on TV.
Pulling a MCguiver with the bubble gum making it a bomb.
Seeing Abbot talk cracks me up i don't know why.
He is just too damn smooth. 
Even though Patrick Jane is a tragic character and it should of ended differently,
i was still happy to see him happy after all these years of hell.
He was a great character to watch and i will miss his antics.

Been a pleasure sharing theories with all you out there.
We had wayyyy better ideas on here than real life and thats a FACT!
To all the trolls, inside your jacket pocket is a dead mouse.
It smells like dick cheese mixed with rotten fish and it will linger inside your pocket for all eternity.
No matter how many times you wash it the smell will be there. Alive.
Use a fabric softener it doesn't matter, that dead mouse is leaving his mark. mark.


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Theory #18712 • By PoopKiddd
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Remember when Stoopkid the kid who can't leave his stoop said GVP was red John! Hahahhaaha you faggot I'm back

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They're both married.

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Theory #18553 • By RED123456789
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You guys are idiots. You're worse then jisbon fans.At-least they're civilized and I'm sure some of them enjoyed the Red John arc.This site was made to honor Red John. Instead, intelligence has left everyone's minds. Don't comment unless you have to something valuable to say. Instead some buffoons here are talking about left nuts and about making fun of Bruno Heller. This is the epitome of retardation! #Pathetic Scum 
                                                                                                                                                      What will you baboons be doing when the show is over. GROW UP FOR FUCK SAKE!!!! Truth be told, tho I sound barbaric, I'm right. 

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Watching the show from the last 6 years, Grace is definitely conflicted.  Even when the FBI came in, she was freaked that her stuff was going to be confiscated.  If this were a truly great show, all the last 15 episodes would be a ruse/con to the real final reveal.  The only truly good choices were Stiles with Van Pelt, daughter as accomplice mole, Partridge again with Van Pelt as the CSI mole, CSI Ron, or Patrick himself.  A truly great mystery has the mastermind decided before the writing begins and then gives faint clues.  No way it was ever the sheriff.  That just became a total screwup as the ratings dipped and Heller ceased to care about the show.  No show answers all questions, but it would be great if some got answered in the last 11 episodes.  We can still hope that the last 3 will involve a conclusion we did not get last season.  Until then, it is hard to watch.  The weekly cases used to be much better, but I still like the characters.

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Ok that last post WAS EPIC!
This changes the game and brings this site back...
So i ask you who is red john?

I am going with my Alex Jane is Red John and Lorelie's step dad.
Marcus Pike is a follower possible too.
Of coarse i think Styles will return, that man did everything right to fake his death..
He even said he will resurrect like jesus and the show never even mentioned Visualize after ep 8.
Rj is anti Ba and somehow related to Visualize.
And you know i still got faith my girl Gvp and Rigsby and involved...
Their exit was an odd one, dont you agree?

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I am sorry about all the Grace stuff but for some reason the writers wanted her to seem very suspicious early on. We get insights into all the characters past. Rigsby and Cho we learned a bit and obviously Jane as well as Lisbon and her drunk father.
But Gvp for some reason seems to have the most skeletons in her closet.
First the way awkward first time meeting with Jane. Priceless.
Then the infamous dinner table convo about God and soul-less Jane.
Then Gvp was nearly in tears because Jane made fun of Kristina Freye's powers. Cousin Yolanda 4 life.
We then learn Grace has a thing with suicide. Her sister killed herself but Grace lied about the whole thing to Rigsby and said she never had a sister.

Then the episode i saw last week with a girl from foster care found dead on an island.
Grace wad LIVID the whole episode!
She assaulted a witness and spilled coffee on a foster care lady.
It was all because the foster care lady could not do her job as Grace said. Lisbon was worries about her but Grace said she was fine.
My question is why make Grace have so many question marks with subjects that are right up the Red John story lines alley!
Is she really gone?

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