Who is Red John

The pigeons (with their beady little eyes) have been symbolic for two reasons.

- Heller has us all eating out of his hand.

- And yes, this fake episode reveal has thrown the cat amongst the pigeons.

I am still refusing to believe that episode is what will be broadcast.

(And Patrick getting a lift to the cemetery in the pimp mobile: and still taking about 20 minutes to greet the guy who gave him the lift - this while his nemesis allegedly waits inside? Another one......why does Patrick run about as fast as Mr Bean? Surely you move your ASS when you're chasing RJ? He was strolling........)

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After watching the leaked episode for a 2nd time; there was another 'glaringly obvious' clue that this might not be the real deal.

Apart from the shit acting, useless script and dreadful scenes, and the 'laugh out loud' moments mentioned by other people; THIS also caught my eye as being Charlie Chaplin ridiculous.

RJ (MacAllister) running into that family's backyard. The little girl sees him coming towards the house, she stands up and she OPENS the glass door as if she wants to let him in. He ignores the opening door and STILL dives through the glass? Go back and watch this bit again folk - slapstick of the highest caliber. He could have just walked in through the opening door...........

Parody and slapstick.

Patrick's comment about birds having 'beady little eyes' was another laugh out loud moment.

And: Honestly, Betram's 'on vacation' outfit while he's on the run with Cordero......coupled with his 'You know who this, I don't need to use a funny voice' to Patrick on the phone.

When I first watched the episode yesterday, I wasn't sure.....but had a feeling it was fake. Watching it a 2nd time - I'm certain it's a planned leak.

Mr Heller wins this round.

The only question that was answered in this episode was the following: what did Jane do in his room for that week when he asked not to be disturbed by anyone or anything? Simple: he was practising shoving a pigeon up his butt without killing it......Makes sense: cos that's the only way that pigeon was getting into that church without Cordero finding it.

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I watched the episode on the link I got here. I'm certain it's fake. It was far too cheesy to be a legitimate reveal.

Best moment in the fake: The mighty Red John lying on the grass, crawling, grunting etc - and WHO does he call for help... '911'.

Really? The man who had moments before spent time grandstanding and telling Patrick in the chapel how powerful he is, how many people he has working for him, how he controls the 'lives' of thousands - and he calls '911' for help when his shit get's real?

Sorry - that was a laugh out loud moment.

If we're expecting too much from 'Red John' Mr Heller - it's because YOU have given us this expectation. I'm expecting you to deliver (smiley face)

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I guess it is Partridge.

A Clue (teasers) from a journo who has watched the episode. Amongst others this one:

'Hi'

Back to the scene I guess where Brett's crime scene photographer said, 'I've always wanted to work one of the famous killers'

Partridge under his breath, "Hi".

I can live with Partridge. Should it be he of course.

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Since all the Partridge speculation has started up again - and getting stronger, I decided to go and take a look at the 1st Jane/Partridge scene once again. Series 1 - The Pilot episode.

We all know how the episode turned out. In order for this theory to 'work', Linus Wagner has to have played a role/been involved with RJ somehow (which wouldn't be out of order, considering Wagner was seen wearing the RJ 'suit' before anyone had a description of what it was RJ's wears until quite some time after the Pilot episode - maybe RJ was a Wagner patient and friend - mentor/son etc. ) But something caught my eye big time.

Patrick makes a huge show of stating that the smiley face is on the wrong wall, because it's not the 1st thing you see. Look on the wall behind the bed. A mirror - a rather large mirror. Reflecting everything that is on the opposite wall - but very carefully shot in terms of camera angles, because you don't see the 'smiley face's' reflection - but you DO see all the picture frames - so logic dictates that the 'smiley face' would also be reflected.

This negates Jane's theory (or PLANNED misdirect) that the smiley face was on the wrong wall, because it wouldn't be the first thing you see. If you walked in, that 'smiley face' would be reflecting and dominating the mirror as a reflection.

You would still see it first, before looking down. Just in it's reflected form.

Probably my imagination, and the mirror was a prop error - but then again.

It could have been Jane starting to play his game and Patridge/Wagner theirs?

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What if Nick Nordella stars as Red John's son........and not as a young RJ as most have speculated?

Could that be the card that Jane holds. Sparing RJ's son in exchange for.........whatever.

That would be a cool twist. RJ the daddy and family man........

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Getting seriously fed up with the 'killjoys' who seem to be intent on slamming, bashing, criticizing and attempting to tear apart every theory on here using 'sarcasm' as their weapon of choice.

There isn't $1 million for the person who get's it right, and it's not a competition. There are also no 'awards' at the end for the contributor who tore down or 'broke' the most theories.

I don't give a shit if someone suspects Bruno Heller himself of being RJ. It is that person's right to theorize and post his theory here; without being made to feel 'stupid' simply because he/she has made a few grammatical errors (because English truly isn't their 1st language) , or doesn't quite get the symbolism; or god help them - they don't know the works of William Blake (mortal sin round here that....)

Judging from the intolerance levels; almighty shows of perceived superiority tripled with a desperate need for credit and attention round here; it wouldn't be out of place to assume that we have a few sociopaths amongst us. Perhaps one of the contributors here is RJ.

Live and let live. Theorize and let theorize.

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