I think... wait I know who Red John is.. I have contrete evidence... season 2 ep 28 ... emperor strikes back.. oh crap.. I mean the one where he drinks tea.. different program.. sorry... I think when jane drinks the tea and sees the knomes I believe it is the one on the right with the beard, this is because rosalind said he was clean shaven so he must of grown a beard. there is no monkeys in any of these episodes.... it just doesnt make sense... hopefully this makes sense tho... brett stiles quotes "to be or not to be that is the question" or was that someone else... anyway I saw in season 4 episode 6 patrick jane... thats all.... and a few others,,, meaning it wasnt him. all this sums it up to be fair.. red john must be a dog.. in season 5 "the red barn" he plays with a dog.. a dog that stares at him when he leaves,,, a dog that thinks hes a tiger.. tiger tiger,,, come on people,... this is in black and white,...