Who is Red John?

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Theory #12530 • By sunsawed
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A Fan-Fic of "Red John."

Patrick Jane confronts Gale Bertram as being Red John.  He shoots him in front of the CBI team.

A funeral is held for Gale Bertram.  The CBI is regaled for killing Red John.  A shadowy figure comes to Bertram's funeral.  He is bald. 

The FBI suspects that the funeral is a show funeral. Jane has shot Bertram in error.  Jane has shot Bertram just to serve his blood lust for killing Red John.  Jane is off the rails.  Bertram is not Red John.  They have proof.  They are ready to convict Jane of killing the innocent Bertram. 

They are ready to serve Jane with the crime of murdering Gale Bertram when the CBI team suddenly produce Bertram in handcuffs.  The shadowy Bald man attending Bertram's funeral suddenly sprints away from the grave.  Jane pursues him through the graveyard.

It turns out it was not Bertram's grave they were digging.  They were digging up Bob Kirkland's grave.  The man inside Bob Kirkland's grave is indeed Bob Kirkland, but he has been dead for several years!

The shadowy man Jane pursued is Michael Kirkland, Robert Kirkland's brother, who has been posing as Bob Kirkland since his brother's death.

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Theory #12205 • By sunsawed
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I think I have it. Red John is MICHAEL Kirkland. Here's the thing. The person we've been lead to believe is Robert Kirkland is actually Michael Kirkland.

We know when Michael was "Killed," he was shot by a known Tyger Tyger Head Guy, Reede Smith. The 
chain of Custody was him and the driver, another TT member. 

We know from "Bob" Kirkland told Jane that his brother got involved with Red John and he presumed killed him. That is why Kirkland supposedly got involved in the hunt for RJ.

Instead, RJ has been keeping his innocent brother in captivity all these years. Using BK's credentials and avenging his murder as motive he passed every background check, where MK certainly could not.

Also, why was TT so intent on killing Reede Smith? Because he's the only person on Earth that knows "Bob" is really Michael and switched the bodies to the freshly shot real Bob Kirkland, who would then be positively identified and buried with the CORRECT name on the grave.

When Kirkland was set to torture Jane, Jane knew he was Red John. But also he knew that if he accused him or let on that he knew, RJ would kill him on the spot. He has to convince Kirkland that he had been eliminated as a suspect in his mind. He also figured out that it was actually Michael because it was MICHAEL'S Property.

Why was RJ killing fake RJs? RJ gave him the List of 7. He's obviously trying to force Jane and the CBI to eliminate suspects until they are down to his chosen Patsy, Bertram. Jane and RJ know that accusing the head of the CBI will cause the Feds to rain hell on the CBI. That's why Jane goes with the plan and makes the big, public announcement.

How was it that Bertram was the only one to escape the blast unscathed? Because he knew it was coming. RJ set it up. When Jane took out the shotgun, he was doing what RJ wanted him to do, kill the last remaining RJ suspects like Kirkland was supposedly doing. So after Jane shoots Smith with a flesh wound, RJ or Bertram detonates the bomb, making sure all the other suspects are dead, except accidentally he loses Smith. He nearly kills Jane, which would put the CBI on a wild goose chase forever, attacking itself.

RJ has been trying to turn Jane into a Serial Killer. That is why he is tempting Jane to kill all the suspects, except the one he cannot kill, his Boss. RJ then makes Jane look like the primary suspect. Tyger Tyger clears Bertram and Jane goes to the Nut Ward and Red John retires.

That's why Jane has to walk away.

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Theory #12186 • By sunsawed
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Actually, MICHAEL Kirkland.  He's the thing.  The person we've been lead to believe is Robert Kirkland is actually Michael Kirkland.









We know when Michael was "Killed," he was shot by a known Tyger Tyger Head Guy, Reede Smith.  The chain of Custody was him and the driver, another TT member.


We know from "Bob" Kirkland told Jane that his brother got involved with Red John and he presumed killed him.  That is why Kirkland supposedly got involve in the hunt for RJ.


Instead, RJ has been keeping his innocent brother in captivity all these years.  Using BK's credentials and avenging his murder as motive he packed every background check, where MK certainly could not.



Also, why was TT so intent on killing Reede Smith?  Because he's the only person on Earth that knows "Bob" is really Michael and switched the bodies to the freshly shot real Bob Kirkland, who would then be positively identified and buried with the CORRECT name on the grave.

When Kirkland was set to torture Jane, Jane knew he was Red John.  But also he knew that if he accused him or let on that he knew, RJ would kill him on the spot.  He has to convince Kirkland that he had been eliminated as a suspect in his mind.  He also figured out that it was actually Michael because it was Michael's Property.

Why was RJ killing fake RJs?    RJ gave him the List of 7.  He's obviously trying to force Jane and the CBI to eliminate suspects until they are down to his chosen Patsy, Bertram.  Jane and RJ know that accusing the head of the CBI will cause the Feds to rain hell on the CBI.  That's why Jane goes with the plan and makes the big, public announcement.

How was it that Bertram was the only one to escape the blast unscathed?  Because he knew it was coming.  RJ set it up.  When Jane took out the shotgun, he was doing what RJ wanted him to do, kill the last remaining RJ suspects like Kirkland was supposedly doing.  So after Jane shoots Smith with a flesh wound, RJ or Bertram detonates the bomb, making sure all the other suspects are dead, except he loses Smith.  He nearly kills Jane, which would put the CBI on a wild goose chase forever, attacking itself.

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Theory #6072 • By sunsawed
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Red John's Last Murder.

I know this is a bit Off Topic, but I've been seeing this for the last three or so seasons.
There has been a fundemental PROBLEM with "The Mentalist" from its start that Bruno Heller has always faced.  "What happens when Red John is CAUGHT."  For Jane, his work with the CBI is OVER.  He's avenged his Family.  His work is DONE.  That, seemingly CONCLUDES the Series.  That's why BH has teased us so miserably the last 5 years with Finales hinting at Red John's end with increasingly preposterous endings.
And I sussed out a way for the series to continue on after Red John's demise.  And you're not going to like it.
What is Red John's relationship with Patrick Jane?  Why doesn't he simply MURDER his biggest and cleverest foe or mow down his CBI team to force Jane to give up?  Why would he have his knife at Lisbon's neck and not kill her?  If he wanted to discourage Jane from pursuing him, why doesn't he just mow down Lisbon's team?
Red John has been grooming Jane as his SUCCESSOR.  He smells Jane's cold-blooded Sociopathy and actively wants to groom Jane as his successor.  So that if he is caught and killed, Jane will continue his legacy so that even in Death, Red John will always live on!  
Jane is key to his immortality.  Not his weak-minded Cult, but someone truly capable of taking on his mantle.  That's why Red John has spared Jane's Death so many times.  RJ wants Jane to be GRATEFUL to RJ and the only person RJ trusts to perpetuate his legacy.
Jane has been too strong.  He hasn't fallen for any of RJ's tricks.  I think Red John has given up on Jane.  He wants someone NEW to GROOM.  And that person is WAYNE RIGSBY.
RJ wanted to groom Jane into a cold, Sociopathic Killer like himself.  He has FAILED.  I think RJ has given up on Jane and moved on to Plan B.  He accepts that Jane will eventually hunt him down and kill him.
Jane was too strong to fall for RJ's manipulative tricks.  But he sees EASY PREY in Rigsby.  Rigsby's a Hot Head.
This is my vision of RJ's REVENGE against Jane:  When Jane has RJ finally hunted down, RJ will intruct his Cult to HUNT DOWN and KILL GRACE and Rigsby's SON.  Red John's final murder.  Let Rigsby feel the pain that Jane had felt.
Red John couldn't convert Jane into his chosen successor.  Red John LOST.  In his place, his Cult of devotees and wannabes turn to absolute CHAOS, with Rigsby wanting to go MEDIEVAL against anything smelling vaguely of Red John.  Red John rules beyond the Grave by the swath of Chaos left behind in his Wake.  Disciples and Wannabes war against Law Enforcement that just wants to smack down anything vaguely Red John.
Cut off the Head of the Hydra and only more problems emerge.

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