Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

LATEST THEORIES

Thank you guys for all those theories, good
ones and bad ones, that made us very close to find the enigma.


Thank u for all those whites nights
thinking about RJ and PJ, rewatching, pausing, rewinding, writing, streaming,
posting, commenting, arguing.


We all woke up one day thinking “I’ve got
it” it’s Partridge, McAllister, Bertram, Mashburn or every other actor in this
show, pro and anti-Partridge, Jane is RJ, no it’s Rigsby, from the least to the
best, soon RJ will be revealed, it will be awesome, and we’ll discover that BH had
mentalized us.



 

But hey no, we haven’t done everything
yet,, after all those thinking, the answer must come to one of us, the REVELATION,
or actually it’s a TRICK.

 



I think found it, and I need help to put all the
pieces together, especially from partridges’ fans, because he is RJ. With proof.




I don’t how to start but we are watching
PJ’s live as a CBI consultant chasing RJ, in the wrong order.

What if the last season was in reality the
beginning of PJ in CBI and the first is the last just before capturing RJ, remember
the symmetry, when you look at a mirror you see right in left and left in
right.

Arguments:

why RJ is making mistakes now (kira
tinseley PI) and in the beginning it was perfect. Even CHO made mistakes because
he is a young detective now. And RJ is a young killer.


Why Partidge at S06E01 seem to be afraid of
PJ, unlike the first time we saw him, confident and making is show.


When in S01E01 we saw flashbacks of PJ on
tv making his pshycic, he said something about RJ

that he already killed 8 or nine women or
victims, he was talking about all the victims in all six seasons, because everything
is going backwards, and he said one other important thing on tv is that he use
to or have worked with the police helping them catch RJ, he was on tv because
he had already caught RJ.
The Normal PJ we know never worked with police before
the RJ incident.



When he came back home and found his
family murdered we have three possibilities:


-Before getting caught RJ murdered the
family.


-It wasn’t the real RJ caught.


-RJ wasn’t caught at all, and janes family
was in secured house (that famous Malibu house)



 I don’t know witch one to choose,, but any
how PJ came home and found what he found and was deeply shocked (who wouldn’t).
he went to a mental hospital and know his getting back his memories bit by
bit,, starting with recent memories first, the first season and then the
second,, we actually are discovering his memories.
Of course he won’t remember all
crimes he solved one by one but the main RJ hunt could fit.

 


I know it will be very difficult to prove
this kind of twisted theorie but it’s a twisted show.

 



If jane hadn’t caught RJ yet, I think RJ
would be visiting him in the mental hospital, that is the seen we’re supposed
to see in a park.
Every time PJ has like an absence for 4 or 5 sec,, he’s
connecting his memories with his reality in that mental hospital,, Carmen lee
may be a nurse there or another mental case, or it’s that woman feeding
pigeons;

 



It’s becoming too long,, please help guys
to fit the story. And keep it alive.

 


i still have some ideas to share about how
the list of seven could fits in backwards, also the death of partridge and Kirkland,,


 



Hope I’m not the one who’s twisted.


by the way this is the first time i click on Partridge as my suspect. he must be for the beauty of the show, mayebe another can fit too.

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Hello everyone - after reading a lot of theories and thinking about who Red John is for a long time - i finally would like to explain my latest thoughts. It's not really the try to finally determine who out of the 7 suspects is Red John - but some thoughts. 

So let's get started, right? 

Most important things first: I think, it COULD be Michael Kirkland. Now before you start yawning and screaming "no - he is dead, dude!" - let me explain. 

When Bob/Robert Kirkland explained his background story to Patrick in Episode S06x05 - what do we learn? 

We learn about his mother, his dad and his brother. 

His dad beat "the crap out of all of them". Until their mother left - with the razor-blade. That's what kicked my theory off. Bob left as well after some time. And when their dad died - michael become the alcoholic. Nothing new until yet. 

But then he met someone. As Bob said "someone who finally could help him". Or as Patrick said "More than that - a savior". 

Bob believes that it was Red John who helped Michael. But I'm not right sure about it. He never met him by himself (we know that because of..well then Bob would know Red John, right? :P ). 

Thinking of the time and the circumstances...couldn't be it that the person who helped Michael wasn't Red John but - Bret Stiles? 

Someone who helped him out of his misery, a "savior"  and someone who only wanted devotion and sacrafice in return. Does sound like the things that powerful cult-leaders are made of, doesn't it? 

So... the next thing: Despite the killing of the Janes , Dr. Towlen Morning and Panzer - we still don't know WHY Red John started killing. We do only know, that mosts of the time, he kills woman (after raping them) and then draws his mark somewhere. 

And why a smiley? A smiley, that also looks like it is crying? A symbol that many, many people would associate with something "childish"?

So let me start with my theory: 

What, if Red John is Michael Kirkland. And as Jack the Ripper was killing prositutes for avenging the doing's of his mother (which he hated) - Red John kills woman. He kills Mothers. His mother wasn't helping him or his brother when their dad beat them. They were probably crying and suffering like hell - but she didn't help. (maybe because she just didn't know how to). 

So Red John aka Michael is killing Woman - just because of his hateress of woman(but that also just an assumption) and paints a crying, childish face on the wall. If Jay Roth has no psychiatric history (no treatmens) - so doesn't Red John probably had some - so he never had help to get over all of that. He is out for blood and revenge.

Her mother killed herself with a razor blade - maybe is that (and the fact of the slow, painful dead) the reason why he uses knifes. 

But how could have Michael shook Patricks Hand? That's the fact I'm not finisehd with yet. Maybe he infiltrated CBI sometimes by playing his role as "Bob"? Not sure about that - but from a psychological point of view it would fit. 

Also - that would know why Bret Stiles knows who Red John is and is a little bit laughing when Patricks says "One of you is Red John"  - as Red John isn't in the room. Bret won't be Red John - he made more than one aspersion about Red John - and a person who's actions base on his ego won't do that. Someone who doesn't like to be slandered would not talk like this about himself. Even not to keep his disclorue up. 

Also what COULD be a fitting fact: He likes Teresa and spares her life. Maybe because he just wanted to send a message to Patrick via the sign on her face - or just not to end the game yet. Who knows. But maybe he likes her, because she suffered as a child as well - like Michael / Red John - she suffered under an alcoholic dad. 

So that's one of my theories. The other ones are "just" from tiger tiger (which i think is a very bad thing in the plot but it's okay). And Haffner..well...he is just acting weird and is a bit foolish about that or just doesn't recognise what his actions are looking like. Who knows. 

Thanks for reading! 

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This is not a theory but a request, please dudes, tonight when the episode ends, please post the link to the episode!!

Thanks much!!!

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Guys, guys, guys...

Brett Partridge is NOT Red John because he is DEAD. Simple as that.

How could he fake his death? In 06x02 when Bertram gets to the scene, he is told that a dead body was found which belongs to Brett Partridge. How could it be that he escaped? I mean, if they found his body, they would have taken it to a morgue, investigated the death, etc. So either Brett is definitely dead and he is not Red John, either Bruno Heller thinks we are stupid and makes him Red John. If Partridge turns out to be Red John, then we do need an explanation as to how the hell he escaped without anyone knowing it for 5 episodes.

Something that is more likely, on the other hand, is Kirkland being Red John, because of his twin brother hanging around somewhere with no news about him. It's possible that Michael got shot instead of Bob.

One thing is sure : if it's Smith or McAllister, I will have wasted 5 years of my life.

But hey guys, don't expect anything epic, it won't be. I think when RJ is revealed, everyone is going to go WTF, it should be very disappointing. (Bruno Heller himself said so!!)


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If there's one thing I can't tolerate 


It's waiting for the episode to start.

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For those who want an exciting story and can appreciate a joke, here's mine.

Red John is the Joker theory:

Wayne Rigsby is Batman, and Bret Stiles is Alfred, his faithful butler. That's why Bret Stiles doesn't have a house in his own name and all his assets belong to Visualize- Batman has been using it to fund his exploits for years. Bret Stiles for the past months has been hiding in the batcave under Visualize buildings as Rigsby realizes he must protect the ones he loves as he gets ever closer to capturing the Joker.

Van Pelt is the Joker's daughter, and the Joker has been using her to get closer to him. But Wayne has caught on to this and is using this against her, to track the Joker down. In a move of genius, he marries her letting her finally think he will spill his secrets. Van Pelt tries to draw Stiles away to the Joker, but does not succeed. Rigsby finally has enough information to track down the Joker.

The woman feeding pigeons is Red John aka the Joker. Look at the long hair, the weird make up on her face. The smile he draws represents how the Joker had his mouth cut, and the smile is ironic, as the Joker's smile is a permanent blood red scar to his face.

On the day of reckoning, in the park, Batman assaults the Joker in a frenzied tazer attack. Usual Batman Vs Joker Rules dictate neither may kill the other one. "Why won't my directors ever let me kill you?!" says Rigsby. Jane follows Rigsby, and realises Red John is there. They're both writhing on the floor, drooling from the intensity of the tazer shocks. Patrick sees his chance and chokes Red John to death.

When Batman realises his favourite enemy is dead, he vows vengeance. Patrick has to flee to Mexico. Batman retreats into the shadows...waiting...watching.

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Whilst scrolling through the site reading some theories, I read something fairly interesting..

One theory, I cannot remember which one, stated that McAllister was wearing a wedding ring before attending the meeting at Jane's house, but wasn't wearing it when he attended the meeting... This, by itself, of course, wouldn't mean anything, but do you still remember what Jared Renfrew wrote on the wall in his blood? "He is mar?" What if he actually wanted to write down [b]"He is married"[/b], but succumbed to his wounds before he finished?


I still believe Haffner is RJ but this would definitely be decent proof against McAllister.

By the way, I just rewatched S06E06 and the theory I referred to is [b]correct[/b]. When McAllister received the text stating the location, he was wearing a wedding ring. However, he wasn't wearing the ring at the meeting.

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