This is MENTAList
http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11591
This is MENTAList
http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11591
This is my first post here :) I read a few Brett Partridge fans and I'm certain its him.
Before last week I had no idea who it is and then I saw it on here: loads of mini clues left from all Partridge's scenes! But then I look around and see people saying the dozens of clues are all just red herrings and he's an obvious suspect.
Let me tell you this: If this website was not around, and noone posted what they found here, Brett Partridge would not be "obvious," in people's eyes. In fact more than 99% of us would believe he was very likely dead. The only reason so many of us believe, expect and search for clues he's still alive is because of the mini clues passed onto viewers from every other season, and actually, that's why he was always going to be Red John.
So if you see Brett Partridge as "obvious" it's because you've compiled a great list of clues from other people. You didnt figure it out yourself. And when you reason that every single one of these subtle clues are 'red herrings,' you're actually in a psychologically warped state because you've spoiled it for yourself and deep down you regret you've lost the chance to be surprised. Your subconscious then attaches itself very strongly to any reason it won't be Brett Partridge.
Let me tell you: 99% of viewers have no idea of ALL the clues. They may know 1 or 2 about Partridge, but when there's only 1 or 2, and he dies, then of course they believe he's dead. But, as most of you on this site know there are DOZENS of clues, and you know better than most, this is great reason he must be alive.
But here's why you shouldn't despair. It doesn't matter that you know who he is. There's a huge backstory you know almost nothing about. SO BE EXCITED!
Craig
OMG OMG OMG!!! I was just watching 6x04 and this popped to my head!Remember when Kirkland met Redee in the park and he was holding 3 coffees? Actually he said: "What do you want? I got black, milk, milk and sugar" and he touched the milk and sugar coffee before Redee tells him that he wants that so he knew that he was gonna get that and there are 2 coffees remaining, milk and black. Kirkland takes the second coffee which is milk and now he has black coffee remaining Can you remember you was drinking black coffee?Raymond Haffner.
When Raymond haffner met Lisbon at 6x06 he ordered coffee, black coffee.That's what makes me believe that Kirkland was going to meet Haffner right after Redee Smith and what business they got together?Raymond always asks Lisbon about Red John progress and he always say that he doesn't care but he has clients that care. Got it?!
Kirkland is one of Raymond's clients. Haffner worked for Kirkland and i bet that Kirkland paid thim so he can feed him with Red John info.
Of course that doesn't mean that Haffner can't be Red John but it means he is one of the clear cops thats why he doesnt have the dots, although i dont think that haffner is Red John.
I find it amazing and It just popped to my head right now I'm so excited!!! Haffner working for Kirkland? Who could imagine? And yet all clues where there! :P
I have just watched last week's "Fire and Brimstone" again to be ready for tonight's episode. And I am now thinking about one thing that I haven't seen in other theories yet.
Let's assume that it was actually RJ who planted the bomb and not PJ (I don't think PJ would do such a thing). Four of the five suspects had about one day to prepare for the meeting - except Stiles who only agreed on the day of the meeting to actually join. So I guess that would be enough time to get some explosive device ready (not an expert though...).
However, they were all only told around noon (12:37pm to be exact) where the meeting was at 8pm. Without any traffic issues it takes 6 hours to drive from Sacramento to Malibu where the meeting took place. We know that Bertram was in his office in Sacramento when he got the message and the sheriff was right in front of the sheriff station in Napa. Stiles was in San Francisco and didn't even have a car yet. So the earliest they could all be at the house in Malibu would be around 7pm. My guess is that PJ was at the house around that time as well - to make sure he had enough time to get everything ready. So it would have been difficult for any of the three - Stiles, Bertram, McAllister - to plant something in the room.
What we don't know is where Haffner and Smith were when they got the text. Smith had just arrested someone, but that could have been anywhere (at least I didn't recognize the buildings). And Haffner was sitting in a cafe - again not a place I recognized, so no idea where exactly he was.
In case Haffner or Smith were already in or near LA, they are the only two who would have had enough time to actually plant something at the house.
Of course, the other possibility is that it was PJ himself or RJ brought the bomb to the meeting directly. But none of them had a bag - so not sure how that could have worked.
Would be interested to hear people's thoughts... Well, in any case we will know more after tonight's episode. I am still hoping for Haffner to be RJ - he's my favorite suspect.
Wow guys! If you look at the Partridge theories, it says 1k+, it doesn't even count it properly anymore...
I'm sure he was RJ early on in the seasons ( I don't care what anybody says, it's just plain DUMB to choose a Red John who was not there from seasons 1 or 2) and it's quite possible that Bruno Heller has changed his mind because so many of us guessed it..How disappointing for us..It was going to be him and now he killed him off..:(
I'm devastated.. It would be a miracle if it's still him..
For me, Xander Berkley is the only one who could pull off Red John - going by what was seen in Nikita. I'm guessing the dumb Sheriff is an act going by the fact Red John is a Moriarty figure - and more of the Red John aspects will be seen in episode 8 which I think will resemble more of the Percy character in Nikita.
Rewatching s01 ep02, it was interesting that the Sheriff appears out of nowhere in front of Van Pelt. Even Patrick was surprised and confused by it - "he's not supposed to be there". Probably part of some plan by Mcallister - you can see the killer's blue van drive past Van Pelt and Mcallister. Maybe the Sheriff has taken a liking to Van Pelt and wants to protect her from the killers, maybe he knows the killers and wants to get Jane and Lisbon out of the hotel room by forcing the altercation with Rigsby, maybe he simplly is having fun by disrupting Jane's plan. Whatever the motives, it is strange situation and strange that the sheriff's deputy/colleague pulls up soon after like it's all planned.
In s06 ep03, we clearly learn Tom is way smarter than he looks by guessing the dead guy is a pizza delivery man, knowing where Patrick was in the woods, and appearing out of now where again on the church roof to intervene. To me, he wants to make Jane look silly by partially giving himself away by dropping clues but not enough to eliminate other suspects - so the game can continue. He clearly likes toying with Jane in a challenging, playful way. Tom seems to be the only one playing this game - I don't see it in the other suspects; they seem more like pawns or disciples. To ensure the game can continue, he had to kill the guy on the roof incase Jane was killed and the game stops.
The one thing Tom couldn't see coming/plan were the birds in the church tower - the viewers got to see this fear but Jane and Lisbon didn't obviously pick up on it. But for me the nail in the coffin was that Jane genuinely seemed confused and scared by Tom in this episode - I have not seen him like that with the other suspects. For Jane, Tom is a unpredictable and confusing suspect.
We know he is part of Tyger Tyger, likes getting others to do the work, is dark and sinister, likes subtly toying with Jane and yet ultimately wants to be his friend. He is the only intriguing suspect. I'm sure Jane has figured him out and is setting a trap for him, but I don't believe, like some, that he did this many season's ago or anything like that. I am also trusting Heller that the list is real and there are no more major twists or people coming back from the dead etc.
The only other believable ones for me are Haffner and Partridge by physical description facts. But I think Partridge is really dead. Partridge also seems too obvious and I don't think he is someone who can create loyal disciples. It would be odd for Haffner to be Red John when he has been humiliated by Jane out of the CBI. Plus, Haffner shows too much on screen annoyance and frustration at Jane.
Anyway, thats my two cents and let us hope the creator's give us something great.