The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 1018)

after watching the great red dragon.. do you really think it's gonna be that easy for the audience. the sole person left standing is now, imo, the least plauisible suspect (this was my belief as soon as i saw he was on the list)

smh at all the partridge disbelievers who now think it's definitely the 'last' suspect standing. unearned hubris. and you'll feel so silly next week.

this is the mentalist, and if you still believe it's this bland, bald, and boring character is the granddaddy of what this show has been based on for 5 years then i feel sorry for you.
the show has to make it as unexpected as possible in conjunction pragmatic rationale.
episode 8, the ultimate episode - the denouement - has great expectations. there will be twists and turns. you can't deny it.

this is why i realllly want it to be partridge now.
a comment here couple days ago said "partridge is what the fans want" "the only logical conclusion" or such. best predicted by this masterpice: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11340

and that's absolutely true. i dont even know why some of you have such passion in disproving BP. all true mentalist fans should be happy with this outcome.
i can't really think of a solid reason to say otherwise (except: "OH LOOK HE DIES AND THE WRITERS EVEN SAY HE'S ELIMINATED AS A SUSPECT)
..when realistically, it could be explained so effectively.

anyway, just some final points on BP
- had he died second and his death been explained or even questioned by jane then maybe i'd rule out BP. but was the first to 'die' and as i watch the scene back, it becomes clearer. it can be explained so darn well that it makes me question if i've jinxed it or not

- Heller says the partridge death scene will serve a hidden clue (for future reference NOT at the time) that will explain the reveal.
to me this about the tyger tyger group and the whole tattoo thing.
i read a theory somewhere that partridge could indeed have the tattoo but on his RIGHT shoulder as the girl couldve been communicating incoherently.
the guy categorically states that there was actually something on BP's right shoulder underneath his shirt.
i dont know what to make of this, and i cant confirm it because i cant rewatch. can someone shed some light on this please.

needless to say, the partridge death scene was very strange.
all aboard the PARTRIDGE EXPRESS.

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Ep. 7 SPOILERS ahead, read at your own risk.

Judging by the comments here I'm not the only one who was disappointed.

First off, I was expecting some explanation about what happened in PJ's house in between the gunshot and the explosion. And about who fired anyway, at whom, etc.
It also honestly annoys me (almost since the beginning of the season,but in this episode especially) that no one seems to give a flying f*ck about those who die. They get killed off and we move on. Personally I didn't want Stiles dead (even though he was dying anyway). I didn't want Bob dead for that matter.
It all just looks like the creators don't care about Patrick being smart any more, they just care about finishing this ASAP.

And Bertram = RJ? If they'd made it more believable. I can't seem to buy it no matter how hard I try. 'Kay, he definitely doesn't have a problem with killing random innocent people. But I don't believe RJ would kill Patrick in his sleep without ever talking to him one on one as RJ, the one who killed his family.

What I liked in this episode was Reede Smith though. I was surprised when he turned himself in, and I liked when they questioned him. Seems like he got into the Blake Club kinda by accident?
I also enjoyed watching Patrick interrogate the other Tyger cop, reading his expressions.

So I think it's safe to say Bertram is the leader of the conspiracy, since he cited Blake before, and Smith said that someone in the organization is a major fan. If he is also proven to be RJ, im gonna be one sad Mentalist fan.

All in all it just seems very obvious that they're rushing this hunt. Maybe too much.

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you really believe it is Gale? C'mon guys that is too easy. Patrick wants to kill red John why would he broadcast it? Anyone who believes that needs to try and solve Scuby Doo crimes first. Red John is either Patridge or someone else from the fact they didn't show his face. Right now if I was the producers and wanted the most shocking views I would pick someone like Van Pelt. She is a red head, it would of flied over all our heads. She been acting wierd this entire season and her/rigby are leaving the show (Not 100% sure of this). She is connected TO RED JOHN. Just look at her face when the guy from FBI comes along. Maybe that is why Patrick is at church, his own team? Brett Stiles had interest with her.If it isn't her I'm guessing Patridge, but he seems to obvious to me also.

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LETS BE REALISTIC

Red John murdered a private investigator by HIMSELF. She looks quite fit and looks like she could actually have brought up a good fight, if not win if it was someone weak.

We have 5 suspects:
Bret Stiles
Ray Haffner
Thomas Sheriff Mcallister
Reede Smith
Gale Bertram

I can almost guarantee Bret Stiles is not strong enough to single-handedly take down the investigator without trouble. Also, Sophie specifically said that the suspect was middle aged. Does Bret Stiles look middle aged? Very doubtful.

This leaves us with four. The rest of these seem like they could take her down.
Ray Haffner
Thomas Sheriff Mcallister
Reede Smith
Gale Bertram

When Reede Smith murdered Kirkland, he put 6 bullets into him, but shot seven. What does this mean? When the report came out, it said that he had 6 bullets into him. Now that usually means to the viewers that, "Oh, Reede Smith might be Red John because he shot 6 times." But he wasn't trying to shoot 6. He shot seven times.

Also, it seems awfully careless of Smith to have shot a man six times just because he "tried to escape." Why not shoot 1 in the head? He doesn't seem like he has the methodical thought put into things like Red John might. Its unlikely its Smith, and he hasn't been in the show very much at all.

Three suspects:
Ray Haffner
Thomas Sheriff McAllister
Gale Bertram

Between these three I can't be completely sure. When Red John visited Sophie, he said that he had a fear of heights, but there is NO REASON for Red John to expose this to Sophie. It is much too risky. However, the whistling part may not have been intentional by Red John. We know that McAllister has a fear of heights, and doesn't like pigeons at all. Interesting? Yes.

Ray Haffner is probably the most likely suspect for all viewers. He likes Lisbon, (there is a theory that Red John likes Lisbon) he was coincidentally gone right when the investigator was murdered. He's fit, charming, and has a Visualize Connection. The private investigator said that she was hired by Visualize.

This makes Haffner a prime suspect, as almost all arrows point at him. But it seems too obvious. If Haffner was Red John, everybody could see it coming, including most passerby viewers. I feel like there is something larger cooking up.

And lastly, Gale Bertram. It would be very ironic if it were him, as he is, after all, Jane's boss. We don't know much about Bertram, besides his personality. He evidently doesn't like losing very much. But we don't know if this is a fake personality.

We don't know who else has a Visualize connection, or else it would be Haffner, but that would be too obvious. So i'll go out on a limb and say that its
Gale Bertram
How fun.

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Theory #11789 • By MTL_IN_RED

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GREEN: Gale Bertram is Red John
RED: McAllister,Haffner or Stiles is Red John and has survived the explosion

for my opinion,McAllister have survive the explosion and he is RJ!
Everyone on the Tyger,Tyger side of the house has survived except Tom(wtf) I can't understand that.

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Guys!!

Did anyone else notice how Jane reacted when Cho sent the pic of Partridge's arm?

It either means that its a clue from Partridge to Jane that he's Red John (I doubt it)

OR

It simply means that partridge wanted to leave this association so one of the association's assassins was sent to kill him and burn his left shoulder which makes sense.

I also noticed something very important:
the flash drive which belongs to Bertram contains the names of ALL members of the association but its in a foreign language no one understands!

One last thing:
I seriously don't think Bertram is Red John because he doesn't have the intelligence RJ has and I think Jane is pulling his last trick in the game, he accused Bertram of being RJ simply because by doing that RJ will contact Jane and threatens to kill him because he ruined the image and personality RJ created. by saying that i think that RJ will kill Bertram in the next episode and paint the famous smiley face on the crime scene.

Whether you agree with me or not I think most of us will be disappointed if Bertram ends out to be RJ.

PS. 159 hours for the Red John episode ,, CAN'T WAIT !!

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So after the explosion when Lisbon walks inside we see a foot on the floor, even though none of the suspects were barefoot, so where did that come from?
It seems awfully fish that the Sheriff would die along with the 2 sitting on the couch all the way on the other side of the room, but the other 3 would be just fine.

Also, keep in mind RJ was scheduled to be revealed at November 17th, BEFORE episode 7 got delayed, so actually he was supposed to be revealed at episode 8, an episode which btw is called "Red John".
So if tonight's episode showed me anything new is that Bertram is not RJ and that at least one of Bret, Ray and Thomas are still alive and one of those is RJ.

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