The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 1039)

Fans of the show are aware of the recurring William Blake motif. The key to understanding this clue is that it's RJ, not the writers of the show, who is intentionally using these references. Let's see where this idea takes us.

Here are some of the well-known references:

* Brett Patridge's name refers to a Blake painting, "A brace of patridge".
* RJ quotes to PJ a Blake poem, "The Tyger", and members of the "Tyger Tyger" conspiracy use this phrase on multiple occasions.
* Episode 7 of season 6 is named in reference to a series of Blake paintings, "The Great Red Dragon".

This last one is particularly interesting, since it seems that the writers, not RJ, are making the reference. My theory predicts that the episode will include some reference, if only a vague one, by RJ to the titular dragon.

If RJ is indeed the author of the Blake references, as in the Tyger case (also uttered by BP when found dying by Lisbon), it seems likely that one of his aliases will also be such a reference (namely, Brett, spelled with "a brace of T"...). And no, I'm not going to get into that whole "he's dead" argument.

But then there's one more early Blake reference. In episode 12 of season 1, the victim is killed after being cursed by a self-proclaimed witch called Tamzin Dove.
Tamzin = twin = pair = brace.
Dove = bird = patridge (no ornithology lessons, please; I know they are very different birds).
Tamzin Dove = A brace of patridge.

This raises a lot of questions:

* If BP is named in reference to Blake, is TD named so too?

* If so, is TD RJ's daughter? She certainly fits: her real name is Sarah Jones from NJ ("Sarah Jones is dead"), her mother committed suicide when she was 16, she doesn't know who her father is, and she has a psychiatric history.

* If so, was it arranged for PJ to take the Cody Elkins case and meet TD? Why?

* TD is portrayed by Azura Skye. Is there a connection to the upcoming episode 9, following RJ's reveal, named "My Blue Heaven"? Will the daughter continue in her father's footsteps?

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Last week I made a very simple prediction about this week's episode: that the Blake reference will not be just in the episode's title, but explicitly articulated by the characters.

And sure enough, we learn about the "Blake Organization".

Why is this significant?
Up until now there was only the poem "Tyger Tyger" as a definite inside-the-show reference to Blake.
Yes, Bertram quoted "A Cradle Song" at the end of "Red Queen", but that could be random.

But now we know that Blake references are significant - they are messages from RJ, rather than an artistic device by the writers of the show.
There's only one message that is more incriminatory than Bertram's quotation, and that's someone having such a reference as their alias.
Yes, "A Brace of Partridge", I'm looking at you.

I'm not going into the whole "he's dead" argument.
Suffice to say that even in this week's episode, Cho does not take a look at BP's face.
What amazing storytelling!

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And now for the punch.

There's one more character with a Blake reference for an alias (and we know it's an alias rather than a real name).
Can you guess who?

Tamzin Dove. Remember her?
Tamzin = twin = pair = brace
Dove = bird = Partridge (yes, quite different birds, but this is art, not ornithology!)

Is Tamzin Dove RJ's daughter?
Will she follow in his footsteps after PJ kills him?

Tamzin Dove is portrayed by actress Azura Skye.
The episode following "Red John" is "My Blue Heaven".
Fill in the blanks.

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Hi everybody,

Firstly, i apologize if my english isn't good at all , i will try to do my best.

I looked a lot about all your theories, it was very interesting. But in my opinion, i don't think Red John is on the list. It wouldn't be a great twist i guess and we all know how BH manage to make us mad with all his tricks.

So here is my theory : RJ is WM.

I know, BH said : « We can trust the list » ; but what is the point if BH talked about the list of names we can see when Patrick is writing on his book ( the list mentions the names of Linus Wagner ; Walter Mashburn and the famous Brett Partridge )

Why should WM be RJ ?

Physically, he corresponds more or less to the Rosalind Harker's description.

His first appearence was in « Redline » ; who mentionned the Red colour.

His last appearence was in « Red Hot » ... Two times Red colour.

He is very charming ; stylish ; very rich and he is a gentleman. He has power with womens. (Like Lorelei Martins)

His third wife liked a lot about medium things. He said that in season 2.

He appreciates a lot Lisbon, that could be explain why he didn't kill her in 6x01.

He also had a relationship with the woman selling luxury cars and was killed in season 2 and as you remember that we know Walter Mashburn in this way, it would have offered a table with... a Tiger.

He shooked Patrick's hand in season 3.

He is in good terms with PJ , and we know all of us that RJ wants a friendship with him.

An important point : He repeated several times to PJ that he is a medium or something like this in season 1. It remind the RJ's letter in PJ's house.

He wears red pull-over.

He has knowledge in explosive stuff.

He is a good manipulator (after all he had a relation with Lisbon and he was the only one who seduces her except Patrick).

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Oh forgot to add that I hope they aren't trying to sneakily change Red Johns voice to a altered version because Red John has one really creepy voice and it better stay that way. That voice is the best part of him. If they have to Dub over or lip sync I want that voice untouched.

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I'm pretty much convinced that Red John is Brett Partridge or maybe someone else who is not on the list but I can't think of anyone else who could be a credible suspect other than Brett Partridge.

Has anyone ever heard of GOLDEN AGE OF DETECTIVE FICTION? It was an era of classic murder mystery novels produced by various authors, all following similar patterns and style. In that era 10 rules of good detectiv stories were established so I decided to see if I can apply any of these 10 rules to The Mentalist to help me get closer to finding out who Red John is.

1. THE CRIMINAL MUST BE MENTIONED IN THE EARLY PART OF THE STORY, BUT MUST NOT BE ANYONE WHOSE THOUGHTS THE READER HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO KNOW. - If we apply this rule to the mentalist it really points to Partridge. We see him in the first episode of the first season and many times more but we never actually learn anything about him.

2. THE DETECTIVE HIMSELF MUST NOT COMMIT THE CRIME. - If there is anyone out there who still thinks Jane is Red John, applying this rule would make that theory imposible.

3. TWIN BROTHERS, AND DOUBLES GENERALLY, MUST NOT APPEAR UNLESS WE HAVE BEEN DULY PREPARED FOR THEM.- This rule cancels out Bob/Micheal Kirkland theory.

There are 10 rules all together but I didn't list them all simply because these 3 are the most helpful ones in concluding who Red John is.

There is one more thing that I noticed in 6x07. When they brought Reede Smith in for questioning he told them a story of how he was addicted to pain killers and because of them he accidentaly shot a 12 year old girl. Tyger Tyger organization helped him to conceal this incident in return for his services.
After hearing that story Smith told I immediately rememberd that in previous seasons Cho had an addiction to pain killers and they never showed us how or when or if he ever stopped using those pain killers. Does anyone else think this is a little suspicipus or is it just a plain coincidence?

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'Partridge-is-dead' believers, can you please explain the burnt left shoulder of the corpse?

Why the hell Bruno is stretching partridge so long (till the Red John showdown), if he is dead??

Definately, even if partridge is not redjohn, he has something bigger role to play in S06E08....

I also have one observation:

Till the end of S06E06, Patrick didn't know anything about Tyger Tyger (as he was surprised to see three suspects having the tatto)...
Suddenly, in S06E07, he realizes there is a secret evil organisation in law enforcement.

My guess: Something that must have been happened at the house where patrick calls in all suspects and which may be revealed in next episode...Still I am not sure...

Please explain this...

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Theory #12073 • By RedJohn8

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Made a few big typo's. Repost. Sorry to be irksome.

Here is what I think happened: Gale Bertram, McAllister, and Smith all work for Tyger Tyger.

Gale Bertram, McAllister and Smith ALSO work for Robert Kirkland. Robert planted spies in Tyger Tyger so he could uncover the conspiracy. Who convinces Minelli to retire? It can be seen in season 2, its Kirkland! Then Bertram arrives later :) In the episode, Gale Bertram leaves a flash drive, full of names of everyone in Tyger Tyger in the safe.

Red John thinks Bertram is playing a loyal footsoldier in pretending that he's Red John. However Bertram is complying with Patrick's plan. Patrick has been sedated. He's completely unharmed from the blast. Gale Bertram is completely unharmed. Bertram is the one who sedated Patrick before the blast. Reede Smith is completely unharmed then takes a freaking bullet for Patrick's plan- he's a stand up hero. Patrick doesn't need to tell Bertram to go and play his role well. Bertram is a stand up guy, acting for the greater good.

However this is what we think happened in the house.

Ray Haffner is told to lift up his shirt properly, revealing a vertical tattoo. Patrick fires a gunshot pointing above him. The bullet makes Haffner scream, even though it missed. Lisbon's phone is bugged by Red John. He hear's Haffner plead and the bullet. Later he hears Patrick blew everyone up. Remember who Patrick helped in episode 2? A weapon designing company. Its about time Patrick gets a reward for doing all those cases.

There's a long pause between the bomb and the bullet. Patrick issues orders to McAllister. McAllister kidnaps Bret Stiles and Ray Haffner. You can see him leaving the scene in another larger car.

Bertram and Reede Smith are ordered by Patrick to become fugitives after they're seen by Lisbon. These are loyal men. They are acting for the greater good. They will do anything to uncover the Tyger Tyger conspiracy, they will give their own lives, or even take others.

At the end of the episode Patrick is done. He has won by destroying Tyger Tyger. Bertram has given CBI the list of names. McAllister has taken Stiles and Ray Haffner- The Visualize links. HOWEVER by making Red John think he's won, Patrick lures Red John like he did in season 4. When Patrick says to Lisbon "I'm letting go," Red John hears because she's bugged. Red John sends a man on his behalf to say to Patrick "I've won". Patrick shoots him once, but Patrick has known, since Lorelei Martins told him he's met Red John, that Red John is Brett Partridge (Harker's description.) The man in the cathedral is not Red John, but Patrick pretends he is. He shoots him once then shows him mercy.

After that the real Red John is confident Patrick will not kill him, so he agrees to meet Patrick. And I really hope Patrick's blue teacup was not smashed in vain.

Patrick is then wanted by the FBI for charges of fraud after everyone discovers what he really did, so Patrick flees to Mexico.

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