Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Ew, who's FOOT was that?   

1) And who was shot?  And WHO did the shooting?  And who planted the bomb?

2) How many people are actually really dead?  One foot only confirms one body.

3)  How did some of them get blown to bits and the rest stay completely in tact?  Seemed unrealistic to me that Patrick, Smith and Bertram didn't lose even a finger.  Bertram stood right next to Haffner and McAllister who were killed but he walked away without a scratch?  I don't get it.  

4)  Bertram is a top Tyger Tyger guy -- maybe even THEE guy at the top -- but WHOA...I did NOT see his level of violence coming.  When he killed the bartender, it was brutal.  Very few moments have ever made me wince, but that was one of the them.  Rough.

5)  BUT Don't think Bertram is RJ [and not sure everyone is really dead].

6) Still too many unanswered questions.  Wish there could a few more characters from the past, like Frye and Harker, to explain more.  

7) Partridge had the tattoo but it was ripped off his arm?

8) Not entirely liking the progression of this much.  Anyone feeling the same?





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As to who the mole inside CBI is . . do you remember when Cho hurt his back and had a problem with pain killers ?( just like Reede) and do you remember when Tyger Tyger first came up Cho recited the Tyger Tyger poem     if it was Rigsby or Van Pelt one would know if the other had a tattoo   so my guess would be Cho ( no one would see that comming and it would be a shocking reveal )  This season fuckin rocks 

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I don't think Pj is Rj, he's just one of the popular choices so I'll be putting this here.

I just want to point out some things that might be happening in the trailer.

*LINK IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExwMYqY0Uo0*

~ If you go at 0:08, you see a bald man with dark skin. That clearly is the FBI man who came and shutdown the CBI at the end of Ep.07. I believe Jane had caught Bertram (Who I don't think is Rj btw), and the man came to his rescue. Bertram flee'd the scene, and this man was probably talking to Pj saying stuff like "I got you" and stupid stuff bad guys say before they are going to "KILL" someone. You see that his team pop out of cars, probably meaning they go and save him from the man.

~ The part right after it says "Hunted", is probably after his team has killed/taken the FBI man, and Jane starts chasing after Bertram (Or maybe someone else, McAllister possibly?). When he smashes through the house I think whoever the person is slows down, and Jane gets them (Figures out they are not Rj, but they might still die).

~ Should be obvious the part at the church was the reason we saw that odd look on Pj's face at the end of the episode, he has that face when there is a presence of Rj, or an Rj face on the wall. I believe that man is 100% not Rj, but probably someone from the Blake Organization (Yes, I do think they are connected).

~ The very end is after Pj shoots him (he doesn't die ofcourse), and he is asking for Mercy. This should be pretty obvious considering Pj says "Now you want mercy"


Who I think Red John is? I don't know really. I also have a theory about how LaRoche is connected to the Blake Organization, after he cut out the dude's tongue. My best guess is maybe Bob Kirkland/Michael Kirkland (1 of them certainly died, but it could've been either) or Jane's father (I would honestly love to hear the backstory to this), 

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Hey all, big fan of the show but I have some concerns that I am hoping someone can clear up for me.  There are many things that happened in seasons before that I feel are just being dismissed that really upsets me because it then gives me the impression that Bruno Heller is just making stuff up as he goes and everything that we analyzed to be concrete evidence is being dismissed and can be classified as a 'red herron' and give credit to Bruno for being clever when really its more that he just changed his mind on who red john is (atleast to me).  Hopefully someone can explain and clear things up or maybe these things will be addressed in the second half of the season finale...

1.  Rosalind Harkers description of Red John seems to have been completely dismissed... I mean just look at the room when Jane gathers every one, they are all completely different.

2.  "He is mar" that Jared Renfrew drew on the wall when he was killed still has yet to be explained...

3.  The visualize connection hasn't been explained (ie the guy that cleaned up after Jane killed the first guy he thought was Red John, how Bret Stiles knew where Red John had Kristina Frye, and the smiley face at the barn where visualize members were.)

4.  After Jane broke Lorelei out of federal prison, he stopped at a gas station to get some supplies and a little kid was just staring at him, and they focused on this for a good minute.  They wouldn't have done that if there was no significance behind it, but it still has not been explained.  

There are many other things that we learned from season 1-4 that are now just all being dismissed and forgotten which I really don't like.  I want to find out who red john is then rewatch those episodes and see that it makes sense.  Anyways I am hoping that everything is explained in the coming episodes and I did think that it was Bret Partridge but after Cho went back to check the body, then its not going to workout :(

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Well might as post my theory before we find out actually who RJ is. I truly think RJ will either end up being Brett Partridge or Ray Haffner. I will start with Partridge. Wouldn't RJ fake his death so he didn't have to worry about Jane? Well I don't think so. I know people are saying his shirt is different from when he died to when Cho inspected. To me that means nothing. But maybe RJ faked his death to mess with Jane again. Partridge also does seem capable of murder. He seems to fascinated with rJ to be him. I don't think RJ himself would act like that about himself to people. But maybe I'm wrong. Now to Haffner he supposedly dead too right? Well maybe someone over heard Jane tell Lisbon about the tattoo and told Haffner so then he got it removed. He also always calls Lisbon by her first name (Teresa). That's what RJ called her. He also likes Lisbon so that's why he spared her. I thought it was Haffner for a long time. He was my prime suspect even before Jane made the list. But the way he acted towards Lisbon when he found out he was a suspect. I don't think RJ would act like that. So that's when I brought Partridge back in the discussion. I'm not even gonna wasted time talking about the other suspects. If it turns out to be anyone else but one of those two I will be very disappointed especially if its Bertram. Well I have to pick one and I think I'm gonna stick with my gut and say Ray Haffner is Red John.

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Partridge is still alive. They only want you to think he is dead.

Partridge is the one that tased Lisbon when in the abandoned house. There is a reason they didn't show his face when Agent Cho checked for the tattoo on his shoulder in the morgue.

Then they will twist it to show that Jane did a reading over him when they were both children while working for his father at the carnival. This will be when they shook hands.

It's how I would have wrote it. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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