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This Theory covers the Red Moon episode mostly, but also has more things in general. Also, I prove that Brett Partridge is not Red John (in the end of theory). But before that, my humble opinions about the series:

I started to hate coming up with theories. The reason is that for almost every single character in the series, we can come up with a solid theory, and it can be true when RJ's identity is revealed. I read somewhere that Bruno said that a good observer can find Red John. Well, we observer everyone and find that everyone can be Red John. To make sure that we would never be %100 confident about who RJ is, they added so many fake clues that it started to be disgusting. Now, everyone is a possible RJ, and everyone is a possible friend of RJ. 


Turning to analysis

Let me start with general information. Patrick Jane has never ever been a step ahead of Red John during the series. Only when he was acting down for  6 months, but Red John learned Rigsby was not dead and he was ahead again.

Red John knows that Patrick solves cases by setting traps for suspects.

If we assume that Ellis Mars is Red John

In this episode, Ellis Mars patiently waits for the person in charge. He wouldn't talk to Van Pelt, waits for Lisbon. But actually he was waiting for Patrick Jane, because he knew Lisbon wouldn't be interested in his psychic crap and he would be able to speak to PJ.

He says: The killer is to strike again.

The killer does.

Later Mars tells Lisbon that she was the last person to speak to murdered sheriff Mullay.

Also correct.

How can he know these? He has to know that killer is Todd, and he must also have been talking to him. Mars was not the actor of the play, so he can be the director or scriptwriter. 

In the hotel room, Todd can't kill Mars. He is in trap, and he tries to shoot PJ with the gun. When pulling the trigger, he says The big picture would blow your mind. He fails, is taken into custody he wants to talk to Jane, saying that They have something in common

And when he is dying in hospital room, he says: Tyger Tyger
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Now, as I said, Patrick Jane was never ahead of Red John. Everything went according to RJ's plan.

In the hotel room, Todd doesn't kill Mars. Why? I will explain in a second. But before that, he tries to kill PJ. Why did he pull the trigger? Because he knew the gun wouldn't fire. They would never kill Jane. RJ knows that PJ always uses traps to catch suspects, and he knows that PJ would never use a gun that works. It is loaded because Todd would be able to distinguish the weight between a loaded and unloaded gun, or he might wanna check the bullets. So, there is no firing pin. He draws his knife, and PJ calls Cho and Rigsby.

When Cho and Rigsby come, there is a smile on Todd's face. Everything is going according to plan. 

Now, why didn't he kill Mars? Since this episode is a work of Red John, everything must be arranged before. If there was no Ellis Mars, there would be no trap. So, Mars is an essential part of the plan. Mars is not a random guy. There is no way he would know those things.

Either:
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Mars is Red John's friend, who is playing his part in the game.
2) Mars himself is Red John. 

Todd knew he wouldn't be able to kill Mars even if he pulled the trigger, as he knows gun won't fire. His part there was to be caught in trap. He acted like he couldn't shoot.

But, someone sets him on fire in CBI ( probably by Craig O'Laughlin, though never evidenced as far as I know ). Now, when he opens his eyes in hospital, he says, tyger tyger. What the hell? 

If you are betrayed, and tried to kill by a horrible thing like being set on fire, the first thing you would say is the name of Red John. But instead, he says tyger tyger. This can only mean one thing. He knew that would happen. 

So what crazy mind accepts being set on fire and killed? Answer is all actors of Red John. Rebecca was smiling when she was killed. The assassin going to hotel room to kill Hightower died gladly by jumping. The guy keeping the girl in the house also died without telling anything. This could be a thing about the higher path Red John was talking about in season 4 finale.

I strongly believe that the episode Red Moon was for Todd. He played his part for the higher path and died. It was Red John's gift to Todd.

Another thing about this episode, Todd says, the big picture would blow Patrick Jane's mind. He is not saying that identity of RJ would blow his mind, but the big picture. So, RJ can still be a side actor, but not Ellis Mars. The thing to blow Patrick's mind would be the game played in this episode. 

Lastly, the building used in last episode of season 2 where Jane and RJ met is the same as the building for sheriff in this episode.
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Interesting? Yes. This could be a hint to us, or maybe they ran out of buildings.

Now, as promised, I will stop talking about Red Moon and prove that Brett Partridge is not Red John.

How do I know? In season 2 finale, you remember the fake Red Johns killing some girl. The couple in film club at college. At that episode, PJ goes to house of the murdered girl and starts looking around. Brett Partridge is also there. He is saying things like hurry up we real guys should find actual evidence. Patrick Jane says some things to him, irrelevant to my proof, and goes out of the room.

When Patrick is out of room, Brett says: JERK ( Season 2 Finale, Time: 11:06)

This is the proof that he is not Red John. He is just an amused scientist. Why? Because when he says JERK, there is no one in the room, only Brett. Nobody can hear him. And Red John would never call Jane jerk. Red John likes playing games with Patrick, and he possibly admires his success in cases. A smile, it would be what RJ would do, but calling him jerk? Never.

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I think that Red John COULD be DANNY RUSKIN:

I am watching the whole program again from start to finish and just watched S3E2, Cackle Bladder Blood. It seems that Danny Ruskin, Jane's estranged Brother in law fits very well with the physical description that we have of Red John by this point in the plot, and also the soft/high pitched Red John voice that is now quite familiar to us. 

People could say that it is unlikely he would have wanted to kill his sister and niece but he was after all seen to be annoyed with her and Patrick for leaving the carnival life- this is not something done lightly.

In this episode S3E2 Jane calls Danny a 'sociopath. like all good con men', and he has also referred to RJ as a sociopath.

I think it is interesting that Danny is introduced to us at this point, just after the 'Tyger Tyger' episode at the end of season 2 and us actually hearing RJ's voice for the first time etc etc.

Finally the meaning of the name 'Ruskin' is 'red haired' like the name 'Roy', a known one of RJ's pseudonyms.

Ps. I hope when Jane finally gets closure him and Lisbon get together, and Rigsby and Van Pelt should get back together for the ending too!!

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Theory #1373 • By Mduduzi
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Brett is just like Dexter Morgan from "Dexter" for those who don't know, Dexter is a TV show about a serial killer that works with the police, He is a blood spatter analyst so he can tell what happened to dead victims, ie. where they were shot. When we first saw Brett he was sort of explaining Red John's M.O(how he kills), he explained it... Jane said it himself that he enjoyed his work too much, so he enjoys deceiving the police, so that would explain Lorelei saying Jane and RJ were both deceitful. 

At the least... Brett has to be the copycat that helped Jane after he was abducted by the copycats. If you watch YouTube videos that change the pitch of Red John talking, you'll see that it sounds like Jane. So a part of me believes Jane may be RJ. 

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Tolman Bunting is a character who appeared in 18-5-4 (the mentalist 02x21). He was very good at chess, able to keep Jane occupied for several days. He worked as a professional codebreaker so i think he is on the same intelectual level with Jane.
My theory is supported by the fact, among other things, that he shook hands with Jane. He is a man who has both the means and his ability to hack into any system (whether he was able to fix universal decryption device or not) and he knew Janes story. Tolman Bunting has a face of a mad genius. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think his profile corresponds to Red Johns.
I'm not quite sure but I think he had the same dubbing as Red John in the last part of 2nd series. It is not much, i know... but red johns profile has only two people... Styles and my suspect.

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This is a re-post of my old theory, hoping to reformat the post and correct grammar. If the reformatting fails, then I give up on this site.


The identity of Red John. This will be written as a persuasive argument rather than purely evidential analysis


First, Bruno Heller has been quoted as saying the astute observer will figure out Red John's Identity (no citation).Although I don't have a link for where I heard that, we should take it as an invitation to apply our minds to discover Red John's identity. 


I will walk you through several things and I'll start with Red John's personality. This will be referenced as part A.A)



1 - He has the capacity to be "the greatest man I've ever met." (Quote from several of his disciples, one being Rebecca, the woman who killed Bosco's team.)



2 - He is skilled in espionage, a conclusion that can be derived from all his moles scattered about the CBI and FBI.



3 - Red John believes in transformation. This is evidenced in the way he turns his disciples. Lorelei tells us that she cannot be hurt because she's already faced her greatest fear, losing her sister (unbeknownst to her, at the hands of Red John). It's as though he recognizes that deep personal trauma is what is required to change someone's personality.



4 - Red John takes extreme vengeance for personal attacks. This can be observed by the punishment he brought down upon Patrick. He elects the deepest kind of suffering for his victims.



5 - Red John believes that he is part of something greater, some kind of righteous idea. There are several references to this, one from Red John himself when he offers partnership to Jane in the season 4 finale, "it's a higher path Patrick, a nobler existence." Rebecca also explains that Red John is on a higher mission. He Also hates "cheap imitations," of his work.



6 - Red John is truly attracted to Rosalind Harker in a special way. One thing that can be noted regarding Harker is that Red John never actually uses her to achieve an end, like he did with Rebecca and Lorelei. In fact, Red John (to our knowledge) hasn't even told Harker that he is Red John. In addition, Red John lets her live in harmony. All of this on top of the fact that they were lovers.



7 - His original trademark killings were highly intimate. He would kill his victims by slicing their throat (in his early days he used a stun gun as well). Also, he specifically targeted women. This indicates that he has some hatred towards women.



8 - Red John loves to play games. When he kills the man who threatened to reveal his identity in Mexico (the infamous "he is mar" incident), he calls Jane and laughs. That's it, he just laughs, a true show of immaturity in his victory. His mind games are also readily apparent in his dealings with Jane. Just look to the poem "Tyger Tyger," to see this.



9 - Red John is rich. While not really a personality trait, it is still relevant. This is a conclusion that can be arrived at by several facts: he can give people new lives and has power in high up places. You don't get that power without money OR you don't have that power and not use it to get money.
After analyzing Red John's personality, finding him in the cast will be much easier to do. However, first I would like to analyze his transformation. This will be referenced as part B.B)



1 - Red John has himself experienced trauma. (Evidenced by A3) 



2 - That trauma was at the hands of a woman. (Evidenced by A7) 



3 - That trauma also changed him into what he is now, a serial killer. (Evidenced by A3)



4 - The trauma also produced a coping mechanism, a belief that the trauma changed him for the better. In psychology, this is called reappraisal. In order to deal with terrible hardship, we have to believe that the events worked in our favor. In Red John's case, the trauma put him on a "higher path." (Evidenced by 5)
This is how our serial killer was produced. This knowledge will also make it easier to identify him in the cast.



Let's analyze a particular character in the cast and match him up against Red John. The character I will be analyzing is Walter Mashburn.



1 - Mashburn is rich, matching up with A9.



2 - Mashburn was left by his fiancee that he was deeply in love with and it changed him, revealed in season 3, episode Red Hot. This matches up with B1 B2 and A3.



3 - Mashburn took revenge upon the man who stole his fiancee, Yuri Bajoran (Red Hot), in the way that gave Yuri the deepest suffering. Mashburn forced Yuri to sell him his "baby," so that Yuri would wake up every morning knowing that Mashburn had beat him. This parallels with the punishment Red John put down on Jane, and also matches up with A4.



4 - Mashburn's fiancee looks like Rosalind Harker, particularly their hair. A very interesting observation is that the actress for Mrs. Bajoran looks extremely different than Mrs. Bajoran. They changed her hair length and color, even her eyebrow color. In fact, they changed it to the point where it looked similar to the actress who plays Ms. Harker. Why would the creators go out of their way to change the actress' appearance so much for such a minor role that got maybe five minutes of screen time? Unless the purpose was to allow the viewer to draw the similarity in appearance. Here are two links that show you the two women: Harker: http://www.tvfanatic.com/2009/03/alicia-witt-to-guest-star-on-the-mentalist/Bajoran: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/veevr.php?id=SWJLvhSyf (this is the red hot episode)This demonstrates that Mashburn has the same taste in women as Red John and matches A6.



5 - Masburn is extremely charming. This is evidenced by Lisbon's attraction to him (super tension) and his wife's description of him. This matches up with A1.



6 - Mashburn has an immaturity about him, a type of childish boredom. He also continously expresses the desire to be the killer in particular cases and tells Jane all he has to do is catch him. This matches A8.



7 - Mashburn excels and is experienced in corporate espionage. During his takeover of Yuri's business, he demonstrates his ability to turn people against Yuri and use them to spy on him. This ability to manipulate matches up with A2.



So far, we see that Mashburn has the catalysts needed to turn into a serial killer, the same catalysts that can be deduced from Red John's personality and behavior. 


Replies to anticipated objections.


1 - How come Jane didn't figure this out already? Red John is highly intelligent. Furthermore, we know that Jane has met Red John and not figured it out, so someone has slipped past Jane's analysis. Also, Red John would have to hide behind a persona so that Jane's analysis would pick up the persona rather than the Red John hidden inside. The persona Mashburn uses is "bored billionaire," although he assures Jane that he is "ruthless."



2 - What about the infamous "he is mar?" The dead man did not have blood on his hands and he is not facing the writing. The writing was not finished, so the conclusion is that he did not write it. The girl, however, her hand rests underneath the blood trail coming down from the R. In addition, she is facing the writing on the wall. This means that, "he is mar," has to be describing Red John in such a way that someone who did not know him would describe him from seeing him. This narrows down the possibilities dramatically from what the dead man could have written. He is married is the most likely possibility and the only way she could have known that he was married is by seeing a wedding ring! Mashburn wears a wedding ring despite not being married. Maybe from his emotional commitment to Mrs. Bajoran. Jane also wears his ring from the marriage with his dead wife (just another parallel between Jane and RJ).



3 - Mashburn isn't in enough episodes! He only appears in season 2 and 3.This link: http://reviewbrain.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/currie-graham-interview/ Reveals that Carrie Graham (actor for Mashburn) is in contact with a writer for the mentalist and may be seen again in season 5. Also, "We love Currie Graham aka Mashburn and we hope to have him back." - from a 2011 post. https://twitter.com/mentalistwriter/statuses/114530049964781568



One random note on Mashburn's behavior. In redline (season 2), Mashburn asks Jane in the end, "Did Lisbon really think I was the killer?" (Earlier he expressed sadness when Lisbon said she thought he might be the killer, as if it really hurt him to have her think he was capable of such a thing). When Jane replies, "Yes, but don't think much of it," Mashburn shuts the door, turns around and smiles. One might ask, why in the world would Mashburn smile at something that previously made him sad? The answer, I believe, is that he was really asking, "Did YOU think I could have been the killer." I think he was asking to see if Jane expressed belief in him being a killer, and of course Jane made it obvious that he never suspected Mashburn. The fact that Jane didn't suspect Mashburn for a second brought him joy, to be so close to Jane and totally avoid his suspicion, what an accomplishment for Red John. This is the only explanation I can think of to account for Mashburn's smile.



A few observations1 - Mashburn has played dumb for Jane before. In redline he says to lisbon, "you have a damaged intensity that is very attractive." He knew that Cho liked motorcycles with seemingly no data. He knew that Lisbon had trust issues. Also, Mashburn analyzed himself from Jane's perspective, meaning he was well aware of what personality he presented to Jane. In red hot, Mashburn says, "it's amazing how this man reads people, I wish I had the skill," (he says this in a confident self-assured tone).



2 - Mashburn has said you can get away with anything if you plan it right to Jane's face. In addition, he told Jane it would be cool if next time they met, Mashburn was the killer.



3 - Mashburn said he had friends in power, the sheriff's department... the mayor. What's interesting is that in the episode entitled "Red John's Friends," we discover that Red John is friends with a sheriff. Different sheriffs albeit, but still a parallel.



Trivia1 - If Mashburn is Red John, then he murdered Jane's wife and slept with Lisbon, Jane's two loves. (Jane has said that he loves Lisbon in the season 4 finale.)



2 - Red John has his own particular "sound," that is exclusive to him. One example of the sound is in this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvXfZK9dnw The sound occurs at 1:59. Here is a better example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqVYNtTso4 and the sound occurs at 3:05. It sounds like "dun dun dun dun." To me it sounds like four strikes of a low note on the piano (I have no skill in music whatsoever and have almost no ability to identify instruments from their sounds). In fact, if you can identify the instrument or synthesizer or whatever it is making the sound, I would be grateful. This sound that is only played for Red John and can be heard in the background of red hot. Here's the link: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/veevr.php?id=SWJLvhSyfThe sounds occur at 30:56 in a slightly different tone and in super low volume (obviously to somewhat mask the parallel). The people I've shown this to (people with greater musical inclinations than I) agree that it has the same rhythm, etc. Red John's sound is played during Mrs. Bajoran's explanation of how Walter changed when she broke his heart (the story of the creation of Red John). These sounds are what first made me think of Walter.



3 - Walter gives to charity. Higher purpose?



I hope my argument has persuaded you. I welcome debate. 


I will post my observations for subsequent episodes inside the Walter Mashburn theory list. 


Here's the first set of new observations: 


So, it seems that everyone on that Visualize farm had some kind of delinquency issue. The preacher said he was, "on the wrong path." Lester had, "trouble with the law." Visualize gathers people who are broken, seeking hope, or any other weakness they can prey on. It's likely that RJ was a delinquent (as he was young) and had entered into Visualize (many people have pointed out this possibility). 
As for our list of RJ suspects, might I point out that Walter Mashburn was a delinquent. He was in reform school and his teachers thought he was, "incorrigible." He also had issues with his mother, probably disciplinary issues given that he referred to his mom as, "Mr. Mashburn." 


Based upon the actor's age, Mashburn would have been ~20 in 1988 which makes it quite likely that he would be referred to as "some kid." Also, it seems that particular description of RJ in 1988 indicates that he was young, Jane says under 30. The actor for Minelli would have been ~39 and the actor for Bret Stiles would have been ~44, not likely to be called some kid. I'm pretty sure that's crushing evidence against the Minelli theory and the Stiles theory.


It might also be important to note that RJ's next known killings are in 1998, ten years after his 1988 killings. My opinion regarding this gap is as follows: RJ was on the wrong path as a delinquent, probably psychopathic or nearing it at this young age. He may have even engaged in animal torture while on the farm (one of the McDonald Triad of common traits in serial killers, along with bed wetting and fire starting). Somewhere along the line, he decided to kill those two men. Given that they were tied up and not just killed, I think they were at his mercy, probably because the killing was personal and planned, not just spur of the moment. Maybe revenge for them wronging him for some reason as they were delinquents on speed. Anyway, then it seems to me that RJ went on the right path somewhere thereafter in such a way that removed his need/desire/journey to kill again. (Like going to college and starting a company called Mashburn Avionics. I can't help but relate back to my theory, but there are probably other explanations relating to other characters that I haven't explored yet.) Then something happened that sparked the killer inside of him 10 years later and begin to target women (notice the two victims in the barn were not women, the pattern of killing women occurred later), which I believe was Mashburn's fiancee leaving him (unfortunately they haven't given us that timeline to check it for certainty). I believe the killer was birthed in that barn and held at bay until another catalyst awoke it anew. 


As for Ray Haffner, you guys all think it's extremely obvious he's under RJ's command right? Or at least under someone's command to help cover for RJ.


What do ya'll think?

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Theory #1362 • By hector
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this people is good in their work 
no one suspects .... Picardo!!!!
i mean Jason Cooper

the real reason is that he is the only actor in the show who has what it takes to pull a satisfactory red john.
i´m not his bigger fan but by far he is the best actor in the show. period. that´s enough.

why is 
Jason Cooper?
red john,... just remember what Patrick said about him since the beginning:
e01s01 patrick answer the questions in the tv show
he tells that thanks to spiritual contact with red john he can make a profile of him
well, we know it´s not a spiritual thing, it´s pure skill
but he needs to make a living so he has this explanation 
but the profile it´s as good as it gets
he is at the peek of his abilities, he can nail it with his eyes closed
red john is a sad ugly guy
that´s all we need

red john is just like as clever as patrick but is not patrick
beside smarts you need the ability to connect with people
you need the personal attractive
red john can reach isolate persons but he has not what it takes to reach people

we know he is in visualize 
right
in the second row
planning to take over but unable to do what patrick or stiles can
unable to lead
he only can pervert
he sure has an interesting relation with stiles
one that include blackmail and worst things

the thing is: 
we know who red john is
please, reveal him in the last episode of this season 
and make next season a killer with patrick not knowing who he is till....

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So, I don't think Van Pelt is Red John but I definitely think she is close to him or is an accomplice. Look at these quotes from various episodes

"The Red Barn": Regarding Visulaize..Grace: What's wrong with wanting to be the most powerful version of you you can be?

"The Crimson Ticket": Teresa: Women can strangle people.

Grace: Believe me I know I could.


"Ring Around The Rosie: To Linda Tibbs "Grace: If you quit now, you're going to miss the best part. Payback.

So she has always had family issues. During the time that Red John started she would be probably 4-6 or somewhere in there. Who's to say that she wasn't having a rough go of it when she was a kid. She needed people to be her "family" and eventually takes her battered and broken self to a Visualize type group and became a member. I know she sits all day because the actress playing her is/was pregnant. But she is one of the only ones who basically watches the incoming/outgoing workings of the group. She could easily put a head up to RJ or anyone connected. It might explain how he is always one step ahead. I just find her recent reactions strange. She is more of a fringe character these days and has a very "bad" girl side to her.

Side Note: This part is out there so don't judge it along with the above paragraph but we don't know where the smiley face on the barn came from. Our assumption is that Red John got his start doing that after he killed those 2 Visualize members. What if it was just some kids who wanted to paint the barn and RJ then copied it as his symbol. What if it was just a Visialize symbol in the early days? Who knows who would have come up with it.

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