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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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My arguments were recently accused of being logically impossible so I've decided to lay out the logic behind the idea that RJ is not one of the names on the list of seven suspects.

Bruno Heller didn't say RJ was on Jane's list.  He said that we can trust the list which is an entirely different thing because there are multiple lists and each one has a different purpose.  

The list of names in Jane's notebooks - so far the purpose is unknown
The list RJ provided - exposed tiger tiger
The fake list Kirkland stole - exposed Kirkland's motives to Jane

It would be inconsistent with past season finales if everything were as it seemed.  Why does everyone assume that they know Jane's plan?  Did anyone know in season 5 that Jane was making a fake list for whoever was spying on him?  If the list RJ read out was in fact Jane's list then RJ is either psychic or he stole the list.  Now because Kirkland stole a fake list we know that if RJ had stolen the list then it would have been the fake list with Richard Haibach's name on it.  RJ did not steal the list so you must believe that RJ is psychic.  If you look at all of this information logically, it is easy to conclude that RJ's list was never Jane's to begin with.  That means that RJ is either a genius that knows exactly who Jane has met and knows exactly how Jane will narrow it down or the names on RJ's list are different from the names on Jane's.  This seemed so unlikely after the S5 final because there was no motive for RJ to send Jane a list of random names but we are now seven episodes into the 6th season and we have seen the effect of that list.  RJ's names exposed tiger tiger and because Jane played by RJ's rules and investigated them as if RJ was on the list, Bertram has been framed as RJ and Jane can't kill the real RJ without being forced to go on the run to South America.  I've just explained the logic of my conclusion that RJ is not one of the seven suspects and is instead of on the suspects in Jane's notebook.  My theory takes into account all the clues from S5 and S6 along with accepted patterns in the past season finales.  Those claiming the list is real base it only on Heller's ambiguous statement.  The S5 finale was called RJ's rules.  RJ's announcement that he's going to start killing again is not a rule but instructing Jane to investigate those seven names as if they were RJ would be a rule.  

I include a link to my past theory which explains why RJ would send Jane a list of tiger tiger suspects and how this all connects back to Todd Johnson in season 3:  
http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11369

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"He is Mar" = He is Mary Poppins.

Think about it!

Whilst we're here, do you think the average "Brett Partridge Theorist" has an IQ above 100?

Green = Yes         Red = No

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You know the show has gone down the toilet when people wish a magical twin appears out of nowhere and take the spotlight. lol


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So it was weird that reede smith called van pelt by name on his burner phone right ? And why rigsby didnt think that was weird too?

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I hate to be wishy washy. Especially within 10 minutes of commenting on someones theory but that person's theory got me thinking...especially with how Heller and other writers have been toying with their words. Here is the writer from this last week about the explosion

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mentalist-red-johns-identity-cbi-656671

Was it particularly difficult seemingly killing three Red John suspects -- Sheriff Tom McAllister, Visualize leader Bret Stiles and FBI agent Ray Haffner -- at the beginning of the hour? Was that always the plan?To be honest, that was one of the easiest things I had to come up with because Ken Woodruff wrote the episode before mine [titled "Fire and Brimstone"]. All I had to do was write, "Fade in. The house has blown up." I will say, fewer body parts made it in than were on-set that day, which was a personal regret of mine. I understand that you can't get everything out of life, but there was more than a foot there. Our show isn't normally that gory, but we wanted to make very clear that that was a human foot and there were dead bodies in there.

Now look at the italics and underlining. Is that sentence one that means..."some suspects were killed." Or does it just plainly say "there were dead bodies?" Because, as an earlier person mentioned, Jane could get cadavers and set up the whole thing. Everyone of those guys could be in on it...getting RJ. Jane finally had to go all out to beat RJ so he basically played his game and made the ruse so large that it would make RJ come out. 

Now, I will admit, I would normally call b.s. on these things because it makes it seem like the show jumped the shark. But the writers are perfectly riding the fence on what they give us. So yes those are body parts and yes they are dead bodies. But did it say those are those people's bodies? There were sheets all over the house covering furniture.

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Spoiler
Patrick sits on the bench with a gun under his thigh and then this happens. In the season 2 final we have seen that Red John had a good aim with his gun. We have seen in many theories that it's plausible that Michael Kirkland is Red John.

Let's confirm it once and for all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WHdxNs1C7E

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Let's cover all our bases. :)

The hospital scene with Kirkland and Jason Lennon is one of the most PUZZLING scenes in the whole series.
There are two possibilities:
1)It is Bob Kirkland at the scene.So, what do we got?Kirkland asks if Lennon recognizes him.That makes total sense by the time he has a twin brother that he thinks Red John killed.Depending on Lennon's answer he would be able to get the information whether his brother is killed or not by Red John.
Kirkland: "Do you recognize me?Have you seen me before?Look close"
Lennon answers: "No"
Kirkland: "Are you sure?It's important."
Lennon: "Yes"
After that he takes out the injection and kills Lennon.WHY?We already know that Kirkland chases Red John as well, so killing a key-person to the case makes no sense.Some could say He wanted to make sure that Jane would not have the information Lennon could provide.But still, watch the S06EP04, Bob Kirkland tortures people and is being so aggressive, so determined, so sure for himself.He MUST do it till the end.At least he could ask him a couple of questions about Red John before killing him.THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

2)It is Michael Kirkland at the scene.What we got there?Killing Lennon makes TOTAL sense, for keeping away from Jane all the things that Lennon knew.So why is it so DAMN important about Lennon recognizing him or not?What's the point?I mean, if he was Red John, Lennon's answer is weird.Some might say he has lost his memory.That's impossible.Here's why:
Kirkland: 'You are in Sacramento Hospital, you've been shot.Do you remember that?"
Lennon: "Lorelei Martins"
Kirkland: "Correct.Your mind is CLEAR"
Some other might say that Lennon indeed recognized Kirkland as being Red John, and he answered "No" because he was afraid that if he would be able to recognize RJ, he must die.But that theory is rejected too.Why?Look at the expression on the face of Lennon.He clearly seems troubled trying to identify the guy that stands in front of him.
Last possibility:Lennon knows that Red John has a twin brother, and he answers no because he is not sure if the person that he is talking to is either Red John or his twin brother.In my opinion, there are a lot of scenes that puzzle the audience, and Bruno Heller is obligated to give the answers.

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