The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 1096)

First of all, I really hope Partridge turns out to be Red John. He is my personal favourite and I think Red John has the connections to fake his own death and get away with it. He was there from the first episode, the very first line he says is "Red John enters here", as he walks across the room (which seems to me like he is making fun of Lisbon and the others right in their faces), and in "Red Sky In the Morning" Patrick spooks him in the victim's room when he comes back to say one last thing to him, and at the end of the episode we see Red John do that exact same thing to Patrick (which I see as a way of getting back at him). The pieces just fit so well that I'd love it if it turns out to be him!

However, the theories about Michael Kirkland being Red John are very interesting, though I hope this doesn't end up with him being Red John.

Just one last thought.I don't think Bob Kirkland's twin brother is actually Red John, because, if he was, would he just had ordered Reede Smith to kill him? Just like that? I think Red John's egomaniacal personality would had made him kill his own twin brother by himself, and not just have somebody else to do it for him.

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Hello folks,

First of all this is not a theory, its more information related with video's of who red john could be.

First things first. My red john suspect is still ray haffner. There are very good theories about every suspects, some of you think partridge, some mccalister and i think its ray haffner.

There are youtube videos of americ who has reviews of the mentalist episodes.
The link below is an video about who red john could be assuming the handshake theory. See it for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkUJnOTT4g8

Americ thinks that ray haffner is red john based on the handshake theory. He could be wrong, but it seems to me more plausible what he is saying about the suspects.

So assuming with this video i think his red john is ray haffner.

In the next video he is watching the red john episode, yes the red john episode 6x08, its the cut version which is not the final version we normally see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWYpReqi678

Look at his reaction at 1.47 he seems excited and also shocked like he knew who red john was. And if iam not wrong i think he also say haffner haffner its haffner(at 1.47-1.52).

So based on his previous theories and his choice of red john(which is ray haffner) i think he is somehow glad that he is right of the outcame.

So like i said its not a theory but more video based there is no any evidence about who it is but is my prediction.

Thanks for reading and feel free to comment.

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First off, I really don't think it can be as straight forward as being Bertram.

The show has always been based on unexpected twists and Jane's genius in reading people and working them out.

So far, the 7 suspects have been whittled down by more traditional "evidence" which is what the rest of the CBI
team usually operate on.

Kirkland and Partridge removed themselves from the list.

And then we went from 5 to 3 with Jane finding out about the tattoo. This was more about lucky timing than brilliance.

And then Smith turned himself in to supposedly reveal Bertram as Red John.

So there must be another twist in store.

Since we've been told we can "trust the list", it still leaves Stiles, Haffner, and McAllister.

Yes, these three have already been pronounced dead, but it's not as concrete as Partirdge's death.

I believe Red John does have the three dots on his arm, because PJ has said in the past he intuitively knows if it's
Red John that made the kill.

So if the private investigator that told PJ on her death bed about the tattoo's wasn't killed by Red John, PJ would
have suspected something was out.

I believe that when McAllister revealed his tattoo, and then said to PJ, "it's not what you think, I'm not Red John",
that was the moment PJ worked it out. As a master mentalist, he caught RJ in a moment of weakness, and
knew he was lying.

Now, when Bertram went to kill PJ in the hospital I believe he was under instructions from either RJ or Tyger Tyger
to kill him.

Possibly RJ is high up or even the leader of Tyger Tyger.

When he failed, he knew he could be the main RJ suspect, so he began running.

The reason PJ put out the media report that Bertram was RJ was the ace up his sleeve.

He knew RJ could not live with the knowledge that PJ thought he'd caught him. His ego would be too big for this
to happen, so he knew that RJ would reveal himself to let PJ know he'd been defeated.

That's what he meant when he said he was "letting go".

So those are the reasons I think it's McAllister. The other reason is when RJ is showed on the preview for the next episode
it looks like either Bertram or McAllister. It doesn't look like anyone else.

And because I don't believe it is Bertram , it must be McAllister. Jane would have never put out the media release because he wants his revenge, he doesn't want RJ locked up)

And just a few final points.

Out of the 7 suspects, 6 of them have shown flashes of their dark sides. The real RJ would likely have a very convincing
"act" so nobody could detect his true nature. McAllister has never seemed over intelligent or egotistical. He also seems fairly friendly and a fairly capable Sherif. This is the perfect cover so people would never even think that he could be a serial killer.

Also, some people have mentioned that he would not be handsome or charismatic enough to seduce a beautiful women like Lorelie.

When he's acting as his true self though, he's a highly intelligent, powerful figure. One who can lead men and manipulate people at will.

This type of power would be extremely attractive to women, especially ones like Lorelie who are a little lost. So I don't believe his lack of traditional good looks would account for him being unable to woo her.

Remember that we haven't seen him acting as his true self as yet!

So that's my theory. Love to hear your thoughts. Also, apologies if some of these points have already been mentioned!

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Random musings... How comes that the corrupt TT cop has a "wrong" tattoo on his shoulder? It is clearly seen, that the dots are getting smaller towards the outside, not the inside...

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Ok why post 3 pages about the same old theory about partridge, haffner , and Bertram and the kirkland brothers over and over . The longer your post is the more your wrong because your fishing and justifying in your head as your write. Lets expand our minds. Lets not fall into the promo trap. Lets delve into topics that are possible but also outside the box . Don't be afraid. This show should be called the mentaltwist. Its about stuff you didn't see coming . Its about saying "how did he do that" its about pjs luxurious hair from heaven. I think the show is foreshadowing a twist with rigsby and van pelt. Bonnie and clyde. Ive posted a million clues about van pelt . Rigsby has caught my eye recently . Think about how much he knew about bertram last episode. Or the weird scene when he asks everyone but looking at choe only "so were ok withe killing our boss" . He's an arson specialist . He was a big suspect of La roche when the cop was set aflame. He had a baby mamma out of nowhere. The episode started with him saying "red john used explosives to kill jane and the others. Lets talk about this. The outer limits . We beat all the other theories to death no pun intended . The people on the list were always a ruse . Lets go!

How did reed smith have van pelts direct line and ask for her specifically ?'!!!

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Theory #12833 • By letsthink323

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Alright ladies and gentlemen i just saw season 6 episode 8 red john spoiler alert!!!!!!

Red john is michael kirkland yes i was as shocked as you were they do tell the story how patrick and michael shook hands at the carnival patrick and his father conned michaels father and mother which drove them to drinking michael met stiles and he took him into visualize and michael found out it was a cult more than a self help place so he asks stiles why not kill people and make money and do cover ups help each other out stiles of course says no he does not condone killing so michael told stiles i will make my own organization hence the blake association thats how stiles knows red joh aka michael. Michael goes onto tell patrick that if you remember what lorlie said to you i will start killing again and often until you catch me or i catch you, michael said you had your chance and the fbi taking over was the check mate you lost. The last thing he tells patrick is the reason why he did not like con men is because what happened to his parents he did not know jane was that con man until he killed his wife and daughter. Other questions are asked and answered i do not want to spoil that much but enjoy the episode it will leave you at the edge of your seat.

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The episode Red Listed, Kirkland says to Smith "Tiger, Tiger." Smith doesn't respond but looks at him clueless. How would Smith know that Kirkland isn't in the BA too if it is so big and not everyone knows all who is in it?

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