Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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First off, I really don't think it can be as straight forward as being Bertram. 

The show has always been based on unexpected twists and Jane's genius in reading people and working them out. 

So far, the 7 suspects have been whittled down by more traditional "evidence" which is what the rest of the CBI
team usually operate on. 

Kirkland and Partridge removed themselves from the list. 

And then we went from 5 to 3 with Jane finding out about the tattoo. This was more about lucky timing than brilliance.

And then Smith turned himself in to supposedly reveal Bertram as Red John.

So there must be another twist in store. 

Since we've been told we can "trust the list", it still leaves Stiles, Haffner, and McAllister.

Yes, these three have already been pronounced dead, but it's not as concrete as Partirdge's death. 

I believe Red John does have the three dots on his arm, because PJ has said in the past he intuitively knows if it's 
Red John that made the kill.

So if the private investigator that told PJ on her death bed about the tattoo's wasn't killed by Red John, PJ would
have suspected something was out. 

I believe that when McAllister revealed his tattoo, and then said to PJ, "it's not what you think, I'm not Red John", 
that was the moment PJ worked it out. As a master mentalist, he caught RJ in a moment of weakness, and 
knew he was lying. 

Now, when Bertram went to kill PJ in the hospital I believe he was under instructions from either RJ or Tyger Tyger
to kill him. 

Possibly RJ is high up or even the leader of Tyger Tyger. 

When he failed, he knew he could be the main RJ suspect, so he began running. 

The reason PJ put out the media report that Bertram was RJ was the ace up his sleeve. 

He knew RJ could not live with the knowledge that PJ thought he'd caught him. His ego would be too big for this
to happen, so he knew that RJ would reveal himself to let PJ know he'd been defeated. 

That's what he meant when he said he was "letting go".

So those are the reasons I think it's McAllister. The other reason is when RJ is showed on the preview for the next episode
it looks like either Bertram or McAllister. It doesn't look like anyone else. 

And because I don't believe it is Bertram , it must be McAllister. Jane would have never put out the media release because he wants his revenge, he doesn't want RJ locked up) 

And just a few final points. 

Out of the 7 suspects, 6 of them have shown flashes of their dark sides. The real RJ would likely have a very convincing
"act" so nobody could detect his true nature. McAllister has never seemed over intelligent or egotistical. He also seems fairly friendly and a fairly capable Sherif. This is the perfect cover so people would never even think that he could be a serial killer. 

Also, some people have mentioned that he would not be handsome or charismatic enough to seduce a beautiful women like Lorelie. 

When he's acting as his true self though, he's a highly intelligent, powerful figure. One who can lead men and manipulate people at will. 

This type of power would be extremely attractive to women, especially ones like Lorelie who are a little lost. So I don't believe his lack of traditional good looks would account for him being unable to woo her. 

Remember that we haven't seen him acting as his true self as yet! 

So that's my theory. Love to hear your thoughts. Also, apologies if some of these points have already been mentioned!

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Random musings... How comes that the corrupt TT cop has a "wrong" tattoo on his shoulder? It is clearly seen, that the dots are getting smaller towards the outside, not the inside...

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Ok why post 3 pages about the same old theory about partridge, haffner , and Bertram and the kirkland brothers over and over . The longer your post is the more your wrong because your fishing and justifying in your head as your write. Lets expand our minds. Lets not fall into the promo trap. Lets delve into topics that are possible but also outside the box . Don't be afraid. This show should be called the mentaltwist. Its about stuff you didn't see coming . Its about saying "how did he do that" its about pjs luxurious hair from heaven. I think the show is foreshadowing a twist with rigsby and van pelt. Bonnie and clyde. Ive posted a million clues about van pelt . Rigsby has caught my eye recently . Think about how much he knew about bertram last episode. Or the weird scene when he asks everyone but looking at choe only "so were ok withe killing our boss" . He's an arson specialist . He was a big suspect of La roche when the cop was set aflame. He had a baby mamma out of nowhere. The episode started with him saying "red john used explosives to kill jane and the others. Lets talk about this. The outer limits . We beat all the other theories to death no pun intended . The people on the list were always a ruse . Lets go!

How did reed smith have van pelts direct line and ask for her specifically ?'!!!

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Theory #12833 • By letsthink323
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Alright ladies and gentlemen i just saw season 6 episode 8 red john spoiler alert!!!!!!

Red john is michael kirkland yes i was as shocked as you were they do tell the story how patrick and michael shook hands at the carnival patrick and his father conned michaels father and mother which drove them to drinking michael met stiles and he took him into visualize and michael found out it was a cult more than a self help place so he asks stiles why not kill people and make money and do cover ups help each other out stiles of course says no he does not condone killing so michael told stiles i will make my own organization hence the blake association thats how stiles knows red joh aka michael. Michael goes onto tell patrick that if you remember what lorlie said to you i will start killing again and often until you catch me or i catch you, michael said you had your chance and the fbi taking over was the check mate you lost. The last thing he tells patrick is the reason why he did not like con men is because what happened to his parents he did not know jane was that con man until he killed his wife and daughter. Other questions are asked and answered i do not want to spoil that much but enjoy the episode it will leave you at the edge of your seat.

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The episode Red Listed, Kirkland says to Smith "Tiger, Tiger." Smith doesn't respond but looks at him clueless. How would Smith know that Kirkland isn't in the BA too if it is so big and not everyone knows all who is in it?

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Theory #12831 • By MissStiles
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To be honest I was perfectly happy for the sheriff to be RJ until I saw the promo. Why did they have to ruin it for us? We are not supposed to know he is alive! If he just popped up in the next episode without us knowing, I would have been happy with it.

Now I don't want McAllister to be RJ, I would be much happier if it's Stiles or Haffner, at least we didn't see them in the promo. Ridiculous.

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...spoiler...
Jane has it all planed. In the promo you can see clearly that the gun is full of tape. Hidden by him under the bench church, probably at the end of the red dragon episode. In the promo, in the church is Bertram, with the ring on his hand and all the baldness. Maybe he shots Bertram to allure Red John(that's why he said that Bertram is Red John, that's why he shots him, not kill maybe, that's why Red John says he had won).
From the voice I do not know if it's McAllister or someone else. I haven't heard this voice during this show. Hope that Red John is someone worthy to be him, if you know what I mean.

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