Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Here is a weird thing I noticed and I would like to share with you.In episode 5x13 "The Red Barn" we learn that back in 1988 Red John was in Eliston farm and he painted a big smiley face on the Barn. Inside the barn they where 3 victims, 2 of them should be Red John's even if we can't be sure for that.
Weird thing is that when Patrick asked the preacher what the smiley face meant and he said "You know I asked Talbot what it meant and he told me it means anything".


TALBOT?! Talbot was one the 2 victims that Red John probably killed, but he saw the smiley face.So the problem is that Red John's first smiley face was painted before his first victims!

I was trying to figure out what that means and the best thing it popped out to my head is that Red John painted the smiley face there not for a human victim but for animals. Red John is a hunter, he started with animals and then started to kill people.The only hunter we know is Thomas McAllister but yet we are not sure if there is someone else in the list that is a hunter aswell.


Please comment below if you can think something better than I did about his first smiley face.

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I guess it is Partridge.

A Clue (teasers) from a journo who has watched the episode. Amongst others this one:

'Hi'

Back to the scene I guess where Brett's crime scene photographer said, 'I've always wanted to work one of the famous killers'

Partridge under his breath, "Hi".

I can live with Partridge. Should it be he of course.




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This is the bottom line.....





I JUST CAN'T WAIT UNTIL NEXT SUNDAY WHEN WE FINALLY FIND OUT WHO RED JOHN REALLY IS!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE all of the questioning, the wondering, the guessing, the pondering, and the waiting....but soon, WE WILL KNOW! I CAN'T WAIIIITTTT!!!!!!

No matter who it is, I hear that this episode is going to be EPIC and AMAZING and SO WORTH THE WAIT!!!

Thank you The Mentalist for the most enthralling plot in television history!!!

Heller is a genius and Patrick is going to be a bad ass and FINALLY get his revenge.


Side note...I hate the fact that "Blue Heaven" is going to be two years in the future. What the hell!?!

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If Partridge is not dead, then two (three including Jane) main characters of The Mentalist would completely suck at their job. Kimball Cho stood in front of Partridge´s dead body, even took a picture of his shoulder. Teresa Lisbon was next to Partridge whe he passed away. She could not tell the wounds were real? Partridge´s blood was all over her face. (Patrick Jane was too at the crime scene. So he was fooled too?)

Thinking about this scene, Van Pelt bugged all their phones. Lisbon checked on the tablet screen that Partridge was the only suspect there. Who else is on the list? Whose phone is not bugged? Michael Kirkland´s! =)

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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford will be revealed as Red John ....

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Since all the Partridge speculation has started up again - and getting stronger, I decided to go and take a look at the 1st Jane/Partridge scene once again. Series 1 - The Pilot episode.

We all know how the episode turned out. In order for this theory to 'work', Linus Wagner has to have played a role/been involved with RJ somehow (which wouldn't be out of order, considering Wagner was seen wearing the RJ 'suit' before anyone had a description of what it was RJ's wears until quite some time after the Pilot episode - maybe RJ was a Wagner patient and friend - mentor/son etc. ) But something caught my eye big time.

Patrick makes a huge show of stating that the smiley face is on the wrong wall, because it's not the 1st thing you see. Look on the wall behind the bed. A mirror - a rather large mirror. Reflecting everything that is on the opposite wall - but very carefully shot in terms of camera angles, because you don't see the 'smiley face's' reflection - but you DO see all the picture frames - so logic dictates that the 'smiley face' would also be reflected.

This negates Jane's theory (or PLANNED misdirect) that the smiley face was on the wrong wall, because it wouldn't be the first thing you see. If you walked in, that 'smiley face' would be reflecting and dominating the mirror as a reflection.

You would still see it first, before looking down. Just in it's reflected form.

Probably my imagination, and the mirror was a prop error - but then again.

It could have been Jane starting to play his game and Patridge/Wagner theirs?


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Hi there,
I have noticed that people are still suspecting many people who are not on Patrick Jane's list or who are confirmed dead.
I would like to clear a few things up and then afterwards discuss my theory and the reasons for it.

First off, regarding people who are not on the list:
Bruno Heller himself has said multiple times that Red John is one of the people on Jane's list. He refers to Red John as a 'he' and has also told people that Patrick Jane is not Red John. Red John cannot be Van Pelt, Lisbon, Jane, or anybody else who is not on the list because Bruno Heller has said so.

Second, regarding suspects who are DEAD:
Brett Partridge is definitely dead as Lisbon and all of us viewers witnessed so he can't be Red John. Him saying Tyger, tyger was either a cry for help or a clue as to his murderer. I highly doubt Red John would do either of those things.
Robert Kirkland is dead as we all saw Reede Smith shoot him multiple times in the back and his body was found dead. Smith later admitted in The Great Red Dragon that he killed him, so Kirkland is not Red John either.
Bret Stiles is dead as confirmed by the people who work on the show and also by the fact that his DNA was found all over the building and there was no tattoo on his shoulder... so he isn't Red John either.
Ray Haffner is also confirmed dead the same way as Bret Stiles. Besides, while he was quite suspicious in the way he tried to transfer Lisbon into his department, he wasn't tough enough nor was he very persuasive. While it is known that he had support from Visualise, he was most likely just a disciple of Red John, nothing more. He also did not have the three red dots tattooed on his shoulder either.
Thomas McAllister has been confirmed dead as well just as Bret Stiles and Ray Haffner. Also, when Jane saw the tattoo on his shoulder, McAllister was afraid and said "It's not what you think." clearly frightened. Red John would not act that way and would already know about the tattoo's significance to Jane.

Now, I think that is about all regarding the subject of the non-suspects, so now to explore what we do know about Red John.

Now, Harker Rosalind may not have met the real Red John, just one of his disciples claiming to be him under orders so as to mislead Jane. Anyway, why would Red John be so foolish so as to make it possible for her to identify him? Why not send in someone else so Jane will have the wrong description? It is possible that the man she slept with was actually Red John but it is important to be careful with what information is to be taken seriously and as truth.
The man who stabbed Kira Tinsley may not have actually been Red John. It is possible that the person she communicated with was a disciple, not Red John himself so her description may be of a different person.
Besides, why would Red John even show anyone that tattoo or make it visible? You would think that if he is going to communicate with or kill someone he doesn't trust, he would either make sure they are completely dead before he leaves or make sure that there is nothing on him that can make him identifiable or linked to anybody else. He should have worn clothing to cover his shoulders.

I think it is likely that in The Great Red Dragon, Red John planted the bomb but positioned himself so as not to be harmed. While they were all gathering into the room he could have planted the bomb in an appropriate place after having a quick look as to the layout of the room. Or he may have arrived earlier and snuck around to watch Jane to see which room it was to happen in and then planted the bomb in a good place somewhere in the house so he won't be harmed seriously. Then he could leave and 'arrive just on time' so Jane won't suspect a bomb.

Now, many people suspect Reede Smith to be Red John but I don't think that he is. My reasons being:
Red John sent in people to kill Reede Smith. Some viewers may think that it is just an act so Jane won't suspect him but they why did the officer say he was going to kill Reede Smith if no one from the CBI was around to hear it? It is clear that Reede Smith was going to be shot if CBI hadn't intervened. And near the end, when Reede Smith is in the alley way dressing his wound and asking Van Pelt for help, he was wary of the car approaching him and hid until he heard that the Cordero was from the CBI but would not drop the weapon until the fake agent Cordero said he came from Van Pelt to help. It is clear that he was going to be shot then until Kimball Cho showed up and saved him. Later when he was being interrogated, he gave a lot of information to Jane and Lisbon that Red John would never want them to know.

MY THEORY: GALE BERTRAM
He is the only suspect on the list left and he doesn't take orders to kill from anyone (well, as far as we can see) and has people who do his bidding. He also has been trying to get all the information he can about Red John from Jane. And he happens to be the director of the CBI which happens to be the perfect position to keep an eye on Jane and make sure he doesn't get too close and to try to keep him under control. Oh, and did you see the boxes full of false identities, passports, money, and other equipment he has in that storage room?! I should think that is a pretty big sign that he is up to no good... And the way he killed that bartender without any look of regret or emotion on his face. He is a ruthless killer who will stop at nothing to get what he wants.

Well, I hope that my ramblings have enlightened you and hopefully you have learnt something from this. I may not have changed your mind but I hope that some of what I have said will be considered and perhaps taken seriously.

Thanks for reading,

The Heir of Black

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