Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Guys up to this point I felt all the theories of a fake episode were wishful thinking (including mine).

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I remember watching the promo, and having the distinct feeling that PJ was talking to RJ in the church scene. A detail that made me feel that was cathing a glimpse of RJ's ring. The scene is on the extended promo only, and is up only for a split second, but enough for the eye to pick up and leave an impression. At mark 0:19-0:20, RJ makes a dismissing motion with his left hand. It is worth noting that no such scene exists in the leaked episode. But it goes further than that.

I checked again, and I could see it clearly. Determined that I was only seeing what I wanted to see and not what was there, I asked a family member who has no idea of the show to check that scene for me and describe to me the hand they see on that video part. I did not ask them directly, cause I didn't want them to be suggested and just see something that wasn't there. After showing them the scene twice, they said: "I dunno, he has a ring?"

That was enough for me to go on and get a few different stills from the extended promo video, just to make sure it wasn't a strange light angle or a nail.

And here's the final result:

http://postimg.org/image/p837399bb/

P.S. I had to include the pigeon, given that no matter what Sunday brings us, that little guy will always be one of the most memorable characters in the show.


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Folks, if the leaked episode is as awful as everyone says, it is unlikely to be legitimate.  Disappointing I could believe.   Even bad I could believe.  But epically, historically atrocious seems like a stretch for the climactic episode in such a great show.  (The Seinfeld finale notwithstanding . . . .)

I think it's a deliberately leaked parody designed to throw us off the trail.  That would be classic Mentalist, in keeping with the spirit of the show.  Parts of the leaked episode may be real -- quite possibly the early parts, but not the end.  I haven't seen the leaked episode, but supposedly the McAllister reveal happens early and then there is a lot of senseless chasing.  I'm guessing that McAllister will show up early in the episode tomorrow and will seem to be Red John -- for a while.  But then the real Red John will appear.  Probably Partridge (though I would prefer Mashburn, who's a better evil twin for Jane). 

There is no way Heller would portray Red John as a real psychic -- one of the main themes of the series is that psychics aren't real.  Also, I don't think Heller would leave all the key mysteries of the show unexplained; he specifically said that "all will be revealed" and that he wants to keep faith with the audience.

Heller also specifically said that Red John killed Partridge for a reason in episode 2 this year.  That reason has yet to be revealed, and the most likely reason is that BP is Red John and needed to escape detection.  I think the writers have gone to great lengths this year to make us think it's not Partridge, which is a compliment to the audience for having figured out he's the guy.  If the leak is real, I'm Britney Spears.

Looking forward to tomorrow night.  Keep the faith!

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Theory #14702 • By Bruno
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Before you make judgement, watch the finished article on Sunday. I have heard complaints about the quality of episode, problems with the sound etc, well the leaked episode was the finished cut. There were still digital edits to be made, along with sound edits. Once all the cosmetic work has been done, it will be an enjoyable episode to watch. I look forward to see your reviews are the episodes has aired. 

Cheers

Bruno

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This episode was so banal, the revelation of Red John as well. He was not reveled by PJ, he actually revealed himself. Nothing was explained, what his motivation in killing? He had a powerful secret organization in his hands, why start killing random people? The profile does not fit somehow, there's something wrong. I do not believe the writers did a brilliant job for five seasons and threw everything in the trash, nothing fits. The profile of Rj we know from past seasons is a cold person, seductive, he could recruit disciples who were idolized him and that they were willing to die for it, not this orgainização police recruits. He is also a very arrogant man, and could not bear anyone to talk about him (he killed several people just by commenting their crimes pejoratively).

If this is indeed the actual episode so I quit watching.

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I was just informed that tomorrow we will not see the episode 'Red John', the episode will be skipped over a week for Bruno Heller has time to remake this horrible end he did.

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The leaked episode "This IS the show, and they are NOT changing it!!!"

   Here is the behind the scenes of Bruno Heller pitching the "Red John" episode to CBS execs, Jason Alexander plays BH and Jerry Seinfeld plays Simon Baker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG7ymv0ptLo

   What do you think -- how accurate is this?

Further question:  Why would the spend so much money on producing this leaked episode if they weren't going to air it?  It matches the preview spot on.  I don't like it either, but it has some merit here and there.


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I'm actually okay with the main guts of the leaked 6.8 episode, the confrontation between Jane and Red John / Sheriff McAllister in the church, pigeon tricks aside. But I do wish they would rewrite/refilm every other part of the episode. The rest is so forgettable that they might as well have had 40 minutes of commercials instead.

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